Antipodean fruit grower statement

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The antipodean fruit growers site is down. A statement from the owner reads in part:

What I fear more than losing my site, being sued, or dealing with police is living in a world where [redacted by me as would be against MN talk guidelines] while normal people are not allowed to even discuss it.

The mob has already planned subsequent targets. Should we stay down, they will then attack 'gender critical' communities - especially those ran by and for women. No place can exist online which criticizes [redacted], and nothing would excite them more than this power and domination struggle being inflicted on a female space instead.

Posted for info.

Yep, I’m on there right now, reading about Matthew Prince

Update: If by "antipodean fruit grower site" you mean kiwifarms, it's been blocked permanently.

If you were on Kiwi Farms rather than Mumsnet, people would be posting clocks at you.

Me too. Fascinating!

Also reading that thread.

When I access what I think the URL is I get this

"Blocked
What happened?
^Due to an imminent and emergency threat to human life, the content of this site is blocked from being accessed through Cloudflare’s infrastructure. For more details, please see: blog.cloudflare.com/kiwifarms-blocked/"^

Or has there been a change of URL, or are you trolling me?

.ru instead of .net.

The Matthew Prince thread is most insightful......

Something smells very very bad there. Hope it all comes out in the wash

It's also bloody long. Could anyone summarise in a way that leaves out all the daft slurs and cuts to the point? Without getting deleted?

Bigots hound trans streamer forced to hide out in Belfast

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/599a356e-2bc1-11ed-a4d5-afa440292fae?shareToken=a8ee921ec8347a06557efcd7b943f305

Shame the Times didn’t include the background on “Keffals.” It
would have been a much more interesting article if they’d covered the story properly.

I still can't access it even with .ru

Are any threats being made against Matthew Prince in the thread there may I ask?

Try a different browser maybe?

You can use the highlight function to skim a thread - the little double arrows next the word highlight will take you to the next highly rated (by registered users) comment.

You’ll still get some bad language but the highest marks (I think!) are via the ‘Informative’ rating so you tend to get the properly evidenced/useful stuff rather than the shit posts.

‘Highlights’ works without a log in.

Not exactly a great advert for CloudFlare is it?

While under their "protection", attackers managed to keep the site down for 3 whole days.

When their protection was pulled, one domain was switched over to avoid them within a few hours, and it has now been running as smooth as I can remember for 24 hours.

So what was the attack-prevention service they were providing again?

Oh, and on top of that, they'll pull the apparently-useless service if enough loonies scweam and scweam and scweam.

At the minute the .net domain is still set to use them - basically Null challenging them to see sense, and so that so their ridiculous statement can remain visible.

How long can an "emergency" that there's "no time" for law enforcement to act on go on, we wonder?

Are any threats being made against Matthew Prince in the thread there may I ask?

I would check for you, but it turns out the thread is 72 pages long, and I don't like you. And threats are against their site rules so I think it's pretty safe to say no. The laughable bomb threat fantasy was deleted just like a threat posted on Mumsnet would be.

Threats aren’t allowed (they get swooped on and deleted by mods, same as here) so we wouldn’t see it anyway.

I hope no one is stupid enough to threaten or even imply physical threats towards Prince (or anyone else). It’s fine to mock him for his sudden change of heart tho!

It’s fine to mock him for his sudden change of heart tho!

And there is certainly no shortage of that!

Anyone care to guess how many threats have been made against Joshua Moon on Twitter?

Or has there been a change of URL, or are you trolling me?

🤣

No threats against Matthew Prince on there 🙄🙄🙄. Plenty of criticism, but that’s still allowed on the internet, despite the best efforts of some.

This seems impossible! Like guessing the number of jelly beans in a jam jar at a school fete (bet the number is similar too).

I couldn’t bring myself to reply to this directly. A case of someone judging me by their own standards of behaviour, maybe?

stuck .ru after the site name, standard browser, straight to it. AdBlocker and Ghostery not a barrier.

I was hoping that bringing all this attention to KiwiFarms would backfire massively, but that Times article is discouraging. Think it might still happen?

@TheClogLady that's really helpful thank you! I don't find KF easy to navigate.

Copy and paste from a comment over there (retracted a word for the sake of Mumsnet sensibilities)

To emphasize, Cloudflare has been extremely good to me. I spend thousands per month for their services. My technical account manager is going to reach out to me to see why I rescinded my services after seven years on Monday, a US holiday, and I’m going to cite this very specific case where it’s seemingly OK to harbor a predatory [censored word] campaign with intent to groom minors versus a gossip site which exists freely on the Internet.

Vote with your wallet if you can. If you use Cloudflare, their competition basically begs for your patronage. I am now saving a ton of money by finally moving over to their direct competition.

Mumsnet uses Cloudflare, right? I wonder if Justine would consider a switch?

I've had a brief look at that thread on kiwifarms. I couldn't access it on my computer because the connection is unsecure but my phone let me access it.

I've seen violent threats made towards transpeople and some very disgusting vile remarks made towards them.