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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Antipodean fruit grower statement

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nothingcomestonothing · 27/08/2022 13:44

The antipodean fruit growers site is down. A statement from the owner reads in part:

What I fear more than losing my site, being sued, or dealing with police is living in a world where [redacted by me as would be against MN talk guidelines] while normal people are not allowed to even discuss it.

The mob has already planned subsequent targets. Should we stay down, they will then attack 'gender critical' communities - especially those ran by and for women. No place can exist online which criticizes [redacted], and nothing would excite them more than this power and domination struggle being inflicted on a female space instead.

Posted for info.

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NecessaryScene · 04/09/2022 08:20

^ see what I mean about people wanting screenshots?

LOL.

NecessaryScene · 04/09/2022 08:20

Goddammit, what a time for a page flip.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 04/09/2022 08:26

Oh bloody hell.
just tried to continue reading a long KW thread about YA fiction and got the Cloudflare blocked message.

Bit confused, has it moved or is it down?

Pepvixen · 04/09/2022 08:31

If you change net to ru then you will see the site is still up Countess

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/09/2022 08:36

It's a well known tactic to post objectionable things deliberately to harvest screenshots to share elsewhere, we know it's happened before re Mumsnet and other sites.

Who knows who posted the screenshot shared on Twitter but to me it seems a bit strange that CF jumped that quickly after saying they would not. Maybe it was backed up in some way by other more credible messages to them, by whoever posted it, whether a regular KF poster or a provocateur from outside.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 04/09/2022 08:44

Pepvixen · 04/09/2022 08:31

If you change net to ru then you will see the site is still up Countess

Many thanks.

KatVonlabonk · 04/09/2022 08:48

Keffals getting a puff piece in The Times here......

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/599a356e-2bc1-11ed-a4d5-afa440292fae?shareToken=177de9bdb7dad01420e6d264c5012d15

Death Threats are never right, I hope Keffals will see the death threats against women in a different light now they have been a victim (again..... apparently they fled Canada CANADA!!! As its unsafe).

Keffals is particularly unpleasant Twitter, loves a good dog pile.

I haven't read the whole thread so I'm assuming they are mentioned as one as the people behind the farms going down.

Fizzynonsense · 04/09/2022 09:00

By way of example of the faux outrage/hysteria, I posted a comment about poutine on KF last night, as Keffals said that they were worried that someone was going to follow them round all their favourite poutine shops.

I commented in slightly witty terms that I had never heard of poutine, needed to Google it, that it sounded horrible and I was surprised it was popular in Britain/Ireland.

Keffals was so glued to the thread that within minutes they had screenshot my totally innocent comment about poutine and deep fried Mars bars and put it on their Twitter account with a screen of a Pink News piece & howls of outrage about a notorious anti trans activist having a verified account on KiwiFarms who was laughing at the threats. (I didn’t even see the threat).

The tweet got deleted but it shows how Keffels is misrepresenting a lot of what is being said.

I have a verified account on KF because I am a lolcow and I post in my own name because TRAs continually report me to the police claiming I have socks on the site. Posting in my own name is a form of protection. I’m happy to own my words, where I post and why, but my situation is very unusual.

TheClogLady · 04/09/2022 09:09

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it’s bonkers. The whole thing is bonkers.

who can we write to at the Times/with contacts at the times who will have enough clout to get some sort of counter piece up? Or a correction on the puff piece?

and I agree Caro, how many poutine shops ARE there in Belfast? Chips in gravy, maybe (does a NI chip shop have gravy? That’s a north/south divide thing on the mainland).

TheClogLady · 04/09/2022 09:16

I answered my own question with a Google.

there is one bar that serves poutine in all of Belfast and one fast food wagon.

www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurants-g186470-zfd10930-Belfast_Northern_Ireland-Poutine.html

seems like a daft ‘favourite food’ for a Canadian who is supposedly in hiding to publicise.

not that I believe that anyone in NI wants to inflict physical harm on Keffals (and they definitely should not do that, violence is illegal) but there may well be people who want to continue the peculiar game of hide and seek Keffals seems to be playing.

janetrock · 04/09/2022 09:19

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ChutneyandPickles · 04/09/2022 09:30

The Washington Post printing outright lies

www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/09/03/cloudflare-drops-kiwifarms/

In the interview, Prince (Cloudflare Chief Executive) said he was uncomfortable dropping Kiwi Farms despite its content and would have preferred to have done so only in response to a court order.

But he said it was an easier call than his previous decisions to drop neo-Nazi site the Daily Stormer and the 8chan website because those two were not hotbeds for specific violent plots.

sleepwbutterflies · 04/09/2022 09:38

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It goes without saying that I cannot speak for the farms. Only one brave man can do that. However my best honest read of the consensus is that the feeling is mutual.

ArabellaScott · 04/09/2022 10:04

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Random poster claims to speak on behalf of mumsnet. I see.

KatVonlabonk · 04/09/2022 10:09

Fizzynonsense · 04/09/2022 09:00

By way of example of the faux outrage/hysteria, I posted a comment about poutine on KF last night, as Keffals said that they were worried that someone was going to follow them round all their favourite poutine shops.

I commented in slightly witty terms that I had never heard of poutine, needed to Google it, that it sounded horrible and I was surprised it was popular in Britain/Ireland.

Keffals was so glued to the thread that within minutes they had screenshot my totally innocent comment about poutine and deep fried Mars bars and put it on their Twitter account with a screen of a Pink News piece & howls of outrage about a notorious anti trans activist having a verified account on KiwiFarms who was laughing at the threats. (I didn’t even see the threat).

The tweet got deleted but it shows how Keffels is misrepresenting a lot of what is being said.

I have a verified account on KF because I am a lolcow and I post in my own name because TRAs continually report me to the police claiming I have socks on the site. Posting in my own name is a form of protection. I’m happy to own my words, where I post and why, but my situation is very unusual.

No one in Northern Ireland is going to follow Keffles to a poutine shop as no one in NI would know what a poutine shop is.
They aren't going to get followed to the chippy either. 🙄

Sonnex · 04/09/2022 10:50

The poster, whose inactive username was an anagram of a username linked to keffals, took it down after 20 mins and then KF banned that user account. Pathetically transparent. I think we have to ask ourselves why this person is so desperate to erase the archiving of what they've been doing the past few years.

NotTerfNorCis · 04/09/2022 10:55

Northern Ireland must have a fearsome reputation in America, as a place where you can just call up 'the lads' and they'll carry out paramilitary violence on your behalf against some rando.

Btw the threat wasn't to follow Keffals to a 'poutine shop', it was to set up an ambush for Keffals at all of Belfast's 'poutine shops'.

Only a fantastist would believe that had any merit.

Ironic that TRAs always dismiss threats against feminists as 'obviously made up'.

91toInfinity · 04/09/2022 11:04

Only a fantastist would believe that had any merit

Who remembers when an eight week old twitter account with three followers tweeted 'you're next' to JK Rowling after the Salman Rushdie attack and everyone here lost their minds?

I do.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/09/2022 11:07

JK Rowling is world famous and the guy looked like a terrorist, and SR had just been stabbed by a random. Of course it was going to be publicised. Women are constantly receiving death and rape threats online and no one gives a single fuck.

AlisonDonut · 04/09/2022 11:08

91toInfinity · 04/09/2022 11:04

Only a fantastist would believe that had any merit

Who remembers when an eight week old twitter account with three followers tweeted 'you're next' to JK Rowling after the Salman Rushdie attack and everyone here lost their minds?

I do.

Is this week's after JKRs home address was plastered over the internet?

Datun · 04/09/2022 11:10

ArabellaScott · 04/09/2022 10:04

Random poster claims to speak on behalf of mumsnet. I see.

Quite. That will make itself onto Twitter, too.

SecretTransTwitterEngineer · 04/09/2022 11:10

SnakesOil · 03/09/2022 14:55

anyway, it’s not the trans-ness that has attracted negative attention, it’s the (alleged) sending prescription drugs to minors behind their parents backs.

It's interesting how some of the new user names posting here are trying to smear KF as an anti-transgender doxxing website when it is primarily concerned with child safety.

Gosh, that's hilarious. When they harassed Julie Terryberry (a cis woman) until she killed herself, was that for 'child safety'?

It's a hate and harassment site run by a man who was too dodgy (CP) for 8chan. The fact that you have grown adults expressing their love for the site is frankly embarrassing, particularly when we're talking about a misogynistic shitpit on a supposed feminist forum.

So many lost their critical thinking abilities when they gained their anti-trans monomania.

Here's another cis woman who is currently being harassed by that awful place.

twitter.com/MarzGurl/status/1565851811772125184

TheClogLady · 04/09/2022 11:17

Btw the threat wasn't to follow Keffals to a 'poutine shop', it was to set up an ambush for Keffals at all of Belfast's 'poutine shops'.

Oh, ok!

seeing as there are no actual poutine shops in Belfast (just an American themed bar and a fast food cart) that’s very obviously a joke.

so the question is, is Keffals so literal Keffals genuinely cannot see that it’s a joke? or is Keffals pretending an obvious joke is some sort of credible threat for pity bucks/internet clout?

Datun · 04/09/2022 11:17

SecretTransTwitterEngineer · 04/09/2022 11:10

Gosh, that's hilarious. When they harassed Julie Terryberry (a cis woman) until she killed herself, was that for 'child safety'?

It's a hate and harassment site run by a man who was too dodgy (CP) for 8chan. The fact that you have grown adults expressing their love for the site is frankly embarrassing, particularly when we're talking about a misogynistic shitpit on a supposed feminist forum.

So many lost their critical thinking abilities when they gained their anti-trans monomania.

Here's another cis woman who is currently being harassed by that awful place.

twitter.com/MarzGurl/status/1565851811772125184

You'll have trouble quoting the posts that say that they love that site, because they've been deleted as obvious trolling/screenshot opp.

people value the veracity of the content on that site. And being 'dodgy' isn't illegal.

Does it not occur to you that shutting down the site could have been legitimately, if it was breaking any laws.

TheClogLady · 04/09/2022 11:17

Mumsnet must be thrilled with all these new members eh?

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