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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Antipodean fruit grower statement

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nothingcomestonothing · 27/08/2022 13:44

The antipodean fruit growers site is down. A statement from the owner reads in part:

What I fear more than losing my site, being sued, or dealing with police is living in a world where [redacted by me as would be against MN talk guidelines] while normal people are not allowed to even discuss it.

The mob has already planned subsequent targets. Should we stay down, they will then attack 'gender critical' communities - especially those ran by and for women. No place can exist online which criticizes [redacted], and nothing would excite them more than this power and domination struggle being inflicted on a female space instead.

Posted for info.

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Dreikanter · 03/09/2022 11:45

Sonnex · 03/09/2022 05:50

The pictures don't show that at all. What an absolute load of nonsense and waffle. Far right agenda? Some people need to get off the internet.

What this actually is is a massive grift. That leffals person has raised 100s of thousands of dollars off the back of this and is now using it for a nice holiday in Ireland.

Keffal’s partner is a self-publicising NI transactivist, so Belfast wasn’t exactly a super secret location to hide in.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/09/2022 12:01

TRAs have so massively over used the 'far right' slur attempts that I don't think they realise how much power has been taken out of the accusation. I mean it's just silly isnt it? JKR is far right. Feminists are far right. Every single woman with a MN account is far right. Everyone that post or read KF is far right. Basically, anyone who refuses to believe that TWAW is far right. I mean it's just silly isnt it? Not to mention statistically extremely unlikely!

Exactly.

Atnight · 03/09/2022 12:24

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 03/09/2022 10:48

Don't you raise a teeny eyebrow if after that allegedly happens, you then choose to post a picture of your hotel to Twitter?
Saying it's allegedly (insinuating not believing someone who says they've suffered harrassment) and then a "well what did you expect posting a picture to Twitter?!" is awfully "you were asking for it" vibes.
Most people wouldn't think that there were people out there unwell enough to pore over every aspect of the pic to deduce from a bedcover or some such crap, I mean who does that?!
But no, it's the victims fault for being silly enough to do something as innocuous as post a photo.
Same old story.

Is it really necessary for Keffals to post a picture of her cat on the internet?

Your post is ridiculous.

Cat3i · 03/09/2022 12:32

www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/cloudflare-kiwi-farms-keffals-anti-trans-rcna44834
"Anti-trans stalkers at Kiwi Farms are chasing one victim around the world. Their list of targets is growing.
A trans streamer and a Republican congresswoman were targeted at their homes in the last month. Experts warn this is just the beginning."
article by Ben Collins, senior reporter @NBC

And here’s a woman talking about KiwiFarms a way of targeting victims of sexual abuse
twitter.com/MarzGurl/status/1565851811772125184

BettyFilous · 03/09/2022 12:33

Datun had a post deleted? 😱 @Datun Without repeating the grave sin you committed, what upset the monitors?

NecessaryScene · 03/09/2022 12:44

I think Datun quoted me using an monitor-unapproved pronoun for Keffals.

Sorry, Datun. (Not sorry, Keffals).

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 03/09/2022 12:47

NecessaryScene · 03/09/2022 12:44

I think Datun quoted me using an monitor-unapproved pronoun for Keffals.

Sorry, Datun. (Not sorry, Keffals).

Oh thank god

i thought if datun has been deleted its obviously the end of days

im pretty positive nostradamus mentioned it

Scissorz · 03/09/2022 13:01

Cat3i · 03/09/2022 12:32

www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/cloudflare-kiwi-farms-keffals-anti-trans-rcna44834
"Anti-trans stalkers at Kiwi Farms are chasing one victim around the world. Their list of targets is growing.
A trans streamer and a Republican congresswoman were targeted at their homes in the last month. Experts warn this is just the beginning."
article by Ben Collins, senior reporter @NBC

And here’s a woman talking about KiwiFarms a way of targeting victims of sexual abuse
twitter.com/MarzGurl/status/1565851811772125184

Oh look, a squirrel.

TheClogLady · 03/09/2022 13:03

Cat3i · 03/09/2022 12:32

www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/cloudflare-kiwi-farms-keffals-anti-trans-rcna44834
"Anti-trans stalkers at Kiwi Farms are chasing one victim around the world. Their list of targets is growing.
A trans streamer and a Republican congresswoman were targeted at their homes in the last month. Experts warn this is just the beginning."
article by Ben Collins, senior reporter @NBC

And here’s a woman talking about KiwiFarms a way of targeting victims of sexual abuse
twitter.com/MarzGurl/status/1565851811772125184

The Ben Collins article has already been posted.

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 03/09/2022 13:35

Yes I'm aware that people scrutinise for child predators and it can be helpful to find them.
This is a picture of a trans woman though, just posting a picture of herself (like people tend to do) and absolutely nothing to do with that, why try and conflate the two?
you seriously can't see the difference between what I posted and what those posts are doing or trying to do?
I don't know what else to say if you really don't

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 03/09/2022 13:36

And if that's not what they were doing - what exactly was the aim then?

AlisonDonut · 03/09/2022 13:39

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 03/09/2022 13:36

And if that's not what they were doing - what exactly was the aim then?

As I guess nobody here posted it, who can say?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 03/09/2022 13:42

I do recommend reading the redux article to anyone who hasn't

reduxx.info/kiwis-vs-predator/

it seems quite revealing about the motivations of this individual

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 03/09/2022 13:42

As I guess nobody here posted it, who can say?
I'm referring to the posts on the previous page, not sure what you're talking about?
Maybe you missed a couple of posts?

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 03/09/2022 13:43

That was to Alison Donut by the way

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 03/09/2022 13:43

to expand upon that point, this person is documented as interacting with teenaged boys in a sexual way online

the receipts are on KF, which may be why this person may be so keen to see the site shut down....

Datun · 03/09/2022 13:44

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 03/09/2022 12:47

Oh thank god

i thought if datun has been deleted its obviously the end of days

im pretty positive nostradamus mentioned it

I'm not sure...

I made fun of some flatulence related pornography being deemed not up to snuff due to the, er, deceptive use of a whoopee cushion?

The thing is, as Null himself said, the Streisand effect is going into overdrive with all this attempted censorship.

Scissorz · 03/09/2022 13:46

TheClogLady · 03/09/2022 13:03

The Ben Collins article has already been posted.

and debunked as fake news by Reduxx.info.

One does wonder what Ben Collins has to hide seeing as he's so keen to discredit a website that deals with facts.

Datun · 03/09/2022 13:48

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 03/09/2022 13:43

to expand upon that point, this person is documented as interacting with teenaged boys in a sexual way online

the receipts are on KF, which may be why this person may be so keen to see the site shut down....

Well quite. What I don't really understand is that there are laws around all this.

If KF aren't doing anything illegal, saying they are would be defamation, surely? And the stuff that kettle seems to have posted - is that legal?

TheClogLady · 03/09/2022 14:13

This is a picture of a trans woman though, just posting a picture of herself (like people tend to do) and absolutely nothing to do with that, why try and conflate the two?

I was refuting your previous assertion, is anyone who uses image backgrounds to identify locations is mentally ill - it’s actually a technique encouraged by law enforcement.

anyway, it’s not the trans-ness that has attracted negative attention, it’s the (alleged) sending prescription drugs to minors behind their parents backs.

if you can’t see the connection, that’s a you problem, not a mumsnet problem or a KiwiFarms problem.

AlisonDonut · 03/09/2022 14:42

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 03/09/2022 13:42

As I guess nobody here posted it, who can say?
I'm referring to the posts on the previous page, not sure what you're talking about?
Maybe you missed a couple of posts?

Perhaps be a bit more specific? I have all 1000 posts on one page. People don't always know what you are on about if you aren't specific.

If (what) is not (who) were doing?

SnakesOil · 03/09/2022 14:55

anyway, it’s not the trans-ness that has attracted negative attention, it’s the (alleged) sending prescription drugs to minors behind their parents backs.

It's interesting how some of the new user names posting here are trying to smear KF as an anti-transgender doxxing website when it is primarily concerned with child safety.

LordLoveADuck · 03/09/2022 15:48

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 03/09/2022 12:47

Oh thank god

i thought if datun has been deleted its obviously the end of days

im pretty positive nostradamus mentioned it

I myself could easily have used the wrong pronoun as this is the first I've seen of (oh-oh just now almost used the wrong pronoun).Given that gender is said to be a performance,where's the makeup?If gender isn't being performed how is anyone be held to account for what pronoun is used?

LordLoveADuck · 03/09/2022 15:50

*first pic I've seen

TheClogLady · 03/09/2022 16:08

It can be very hard to tell nowadays (presuming it’s ok to post this image as I found it on an older Mumsnet thread)

for the sake of clarity, none of the pictured people are related to the current Kiwi-Keffal Kerfuffle, I’m sharing it only to illustrate how difficult it can be to match pronouns to appearance in the modern era:

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