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@JemimaPuddlegoose I thought I recognised your name from other threads. I'm sorry you're upset and feel attacked but I am honestly confused about the allegations you make in your 20.01pm post. I don't remember reading anything like that. Did you have the posts taken down or were they on other threads?

As a matter of interest @JemimaPuddlegoose did you find the picture of the flags on regent Street reminiscent of anything? The Pride Swastika post was originally a response to that image and the underlyingTRA authoritarian behaviour and tactics, I can see why it was done, can you not?

Secondly, you made a serious allegation against Helen Joyce and despite being asked to substantiate it have not done so and several posters have provided evidence from her book that contradicts what you allege.

No one screamed anything about your being Jewish. They objected to your total fabrication of the contents of a book.

Maybe we can get some links to posts on FWR that that were overtly homophobic (claiming that teenagers can't be gay and that people are only gay if they've been groomed into it) too?

I don’t recognize these types of posts being made by regular FWR posters. Maybe they are made by visitors to the board?? Is that what you meant?

Oh the fucking irony.

This is possibly the most bonkers thread I've ever read on Mumsnet.

@JemimaPuddlegoose

I’m sorry you feel this way. I know you’ve posted here a long time. I have to say this honestly, though: the current model of looking at everything through the lens of identity is dangerous. I can’t see a single example of anyone here caring that you are Jewish. Honestly. But you appear to think it’s the most relevant thing. Why?

It's Friday so I shall allow myself to indulge in a challenge to that claim.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3386868-AIBU-to-be-livid-how-dolphins-are-portrayed-compared-to-how-they-are

I think the charges against Man A (chappie who was arrested at his house for re-posting the meme) have been dropped. Makes you think what those women who were living with the stress of charges for months on end. Women who were so bold as to call out an ideology that proclaims men to be women if they so wish. And, the prolonged stress visited on Marion Millar; who had the temerity to fasten a ribbon in public.

"If you’re going to object to the satirical flag at least be accurate"

Bang on however those who have sacred cows are incapable of exposing their beliefs to satire. I am reminded of Ayatollah Khomeini's statement that "there is no humour in Islam". In his mind and the minds of other true believers, Islam can brook no irreverence whatsoever; an attitude on display on this thread though here regarding a different theology.

The lights are going off all over Mumsnet!

Trigger’s Broom is a version of the thought experiment the Ship of Theseus.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

To be fair to the 20 something, her position is a philosophical position that has been argued since 500BC.

That's why, to me, it’s the greatest joke in television of all time. It takes a concept of 2500 years of philosophical debate, applies it to a Peckham road sweeper, has a laugh at his expense, but maybe he’s smarter than all of them?🤣

Never thought about that but I agree about there being something authoritarian about this type of flag, namely everyone assigned an identity and everything ordered and static.

Re Ship of Theseus - I know it as 'my grandfather's axe'

I've still got grandfather's spade.
Father replaced the handle and
I replaced the blade.

I wonder how many variations there are and if they differ by region.

Trigger’s Broom is a version of the thought experiment the Ship of Theseus.

It's amazing what you can learn on MN FWR S&G of an evening - this is not just education this is MN FWR S&G education

'In pop music, all three founding members of girl-group Sugababes were replaced one-by-one during the first decade of the 21st century, raising the question: was the result still the Sugababes?'

Indeed, surely 'Round Round' is a nod to Nietzsche's theory of eternal return?

I think there's a car, called 'old no.1' and actual vehicle, not a thought experiment that's believed to have undergone this process. Very little, if anything of the original car left. Aren't there some rock bands that have done the same thing?

She's not wrong though.

Lots of ships are like that too. There is a famous ship near where I live, almost none of it is actually the same ship any more.

It's similar with our housing regs. In some places you can't do new build, but you can renovate an old place. The rule is you need to retain one corner post for it to still be "the same" house.

Dolphins are indeed bastards. Nevermind their cheeky grins.

This has been debunked. WomenAreHuman covered this smear campaign. Here's a tweet the article quotes that sums up the issue

"Thinking about the accusations of antisemitism against Helen Joyce. She mentions two Jewish billionaires. She doesn't accuse them of shadowy machinations or obvious tropes. Doesn't mention their ethnicity.

If that's antisemitic, is it at all possible to criticise George Soros?"

www.womenarehuman.com/trans-activists-smear-author-of-trans-when-ideology-meets-reality/

According to Joyce, ‘a few wealthy people’ (p 227), apparently ‘rich, white American males’ (p 228) have ‘shaped the global (trans) agenda’ (p 227). She then goes on to name three rich Jewish people.

@DarkDayforMN thanks for the book recommendation.I look forward to reading it

Much thanks EH for posting those links