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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Harry miller arrested

464 replies

chilling19 · 28/07/2022 22:16

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DarkDayforMN · 30/07/2022 00:08

She then goes on to name three rich Jewish people.

Bless, counting isn’t your strong point is it? My 18mo could teach you, she surprised me by counting to six the other day.

TheBiologyStupid · 30/07/2022 00:21

Glinner has released an update, reporting his chat with Harry: grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/what-happened-to-harry-last-night

Helleofabore · 30/07/2022 00:30

antelopevalley · 29/07/2022 23:45

According to Joyce, ‘a few wealthy people’ (p 227), apparently ‘rich, white American males’ (p 228) have ‘shaped the global (trans) agenda’ (p 227). She then goes on to name three rich Jewish people.

So, are you saying that she should not have mentioned their names? That her not disclosing that some or all of those males were Jewish was irelevant and she simply should not have mentioned their names.

Meaning that she would then be discredited for not being accurate.

Was there any other way that she could mention those three males names and the fact that they were males and American that would have been acceptable? If there was, could you please suggest how she could have written it?

NotBadConsidering · 30/07/2022 01:10

It takes a considerable element of persistence to attempt to derail, slur and rehash the myth about Helen Joyce with a post only a few posts after the last cycle of myth-debunk posts had finished.

ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 30/07/2022 01:10

jewishmum · 29/07/2022 05:05

Disappointed that people think this was funny or defended it.

jewishmum -- no feminist thinks the Nazi swastika is funny or defends it. Comparing movements to Nazism is always condemnatory, not celebratory.

Revealing a swastika in the trans flag is clever because it silently comments on the authoritarian and intimidatory nature of the gender identity movement.

McDuffy · 30/07/2022 01:30

Disingenuous headline in the Times. Ironically, comments are turned off Grin

Police criticised over arrest for gay swastika post

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fd9ae534-0f81-11ed-93cf-b011fa7fe86b?shareToken=d6bd6587b52c7bf1a60263e9397fbfe4

DarkDayforMN · 30/07/2022 01:46

The veteran, who has requested anonymity, contacted Miller and Fox and told them that officers had advised him to “check with his neighbours before he posts anything”.

What a bizarre thing to say. I wonder if his neighbors reported him. The neighbors got another mention at the end of the article.

MangyInseam · 30/07/2022 01:48

ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 30/07/2022 01:10

jewishmum -- no feminist thinks the Nazi swastika is funny or defends it. Comparing movements to Nazism is always condemnatory, not celebratory.

Revealing a swastika in the trans flag is clever because it silently comments on the authoritarian and intimidatory nature of the gender identity movement.

And I also think because visually it looks a bit silly, what with the happy looking coloured stripes.

So there is a political commentary but also a sort of artistic tension with the design, and the whole juxtaposition is unexpected but kind of obvious once you see it.

It's similar with the flags all done up like a Nazi parade. It's bizarre because the format is like something out of a WWII film reel but with all these rainbow colours.

LordLoveADuck · 30/07/2022 02:14

EmmaH2022 · 29/07/2022 14:28

LaughingPriest "I think as a general rule of thumb, if you have a message you want to be taken seriously, whatever it is, leave swastikas out of it."

yes. Whoever came up with that hasn't done any favours to those of us who are concerned about LGBTQI+.

You Emma maybe concerned with the LGBTQ+ but I believe it safe to say most GC are concerned with the TQ+

BattyOrange · 30/07/2022 02:15

McDuffy · 30/07/2022 01:30

Disingenuous headline in the Times. Ironically, comments are turned off Grin

Police criticised over arrest for gay swastika post

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fd9ae534-0f81-11ed-93cf-b011fa7fe86b?shareToken=d6bd6587b52c7bf1a60263e9397fbfe4

And then this from the DM www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11063507/Police-force-savaged-crime-commissioner-arrest-army-veteran.html

OneOfThoseOldFashionedWomen · 30/07/2022 08:02

“so you literally have a pride flag. And it says Hampshire police on it. And you're arresting me basically for something to do with the flag. Can you not see the problem with that?” “Well, no, you're just homophobic.” I told them this had nothing to do with homophobia. I said “I do not recognize your authority as a police officer."

You are the military wing of Stonewall

sk8trade · 30/07/2022 08:34

I don't understand why some posters are attacking them, I'm very grateful for the work that Laurence and Harry do ensuring the safety of women and children.

Datun · 30/07/2022 08:51

ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 30/07/2022 01:10

jewishmum -- no feminist thinks the Nazi swastika is funny or defends it. Comparing movements to Nazism is always condemnatory, not celebratory.

Revealing a swastika in the trans flag is clever because it silently comments on the authoritarian and intimidatory nature of the gender identity movement.

Exactly!

DarkDayForPearlClutchingVipers · 30/07/2022 08:55

There are three linked issues here.

First the freedom of speech issue - who decides what is offensive and who can say or write offensive things.

Secondly the use of non crime incidents. Anything - anything at all - can be classed as this. The criteria is whether someone finds it offensive. Some here may find rearranged rainbow flags offensive; some find the flag on its own offensive.

Lastly, the police threatening someone with arrest without reading his rights. That's very serious. That threatens all of us and the rule of law.

Datun · 30/07/2022 09:15

That Graham Linehan piece is astonishing.

Harry calls it extortion. If you pay sixty quid now for a re-education course, we'll wipe the crime - ie not even record it.

And what on earth is the course content?? Apparently one suggestion is to check with your neighbours before you post on Facebook!

Which neighbours? What are their credentials? Who's approved and who isn't?

And he's certain this is common practice.

exwhyzed · 30/07/2022 09:39

I'm assuming there's already a FOI in the pipeline asking police forces about who runs the re-education camps and where the money from them goes to?

SolasAnla · 30/07/2022 09:51

DarkDayforMN · 30/07/2022 01:46

The veteran, who has requested anonymity, contacted Miller and Fox and told them that officers had advised him to “check with his neighbours before he posts anything”.

What a bizarre thing to say. I wonder if his neighbors reported him. The neighbors got another mention at the end of the article.

I think that the police suggestion was that he get other people to approve his "public utterance" so the "local committee" (big assumption being they are following the approved party line) get to review, edit, and sign off on anything he posts.

The police would be in trouble if they were suggesting that he turn up in person at a complaining neighbour's home.

antelopevalley · 30/07/2022 09:53

Datun · 30/07/2022 08:51

Exactly!

Comparing the trans movement to literal Nazis is antsemitic.

RoyalCorgi · 30/07/2022 09:55

Comparing the trans movement to literal Nazis is antsemitic.

Can you explain why transactivists are always accusing feminists of being Nazis and fascists? 'Cos it gets a bit boring.

Datun · 30/07/2022 10:00

antelopevalley · 30/07/2022 09:53

Comparing the trans movement to literal Nazis is antsemitic.

You're not reading the post properly.

The poster said that comparisons with Nazism are never celebratory - comparisons generally, because they then went on to clarify that in this particular instance

"Revealing a swastika in the trans flag is clever because it silently comments on the authoritarian and intimidatory nature of the gender identity movement."

Secondhand · 30/07/2022 10:01

RoyalCorgi · 30/07/2022 09:55

Comparing the trans movement to literal Nazis is antsemitic.

Can you explain why transactivists are always accusing feminists of being Nazis and fascists? 'Cos it gets a bit boring.

Laurence Fox is a femist now?

Secondhand · 30/07/2022 10:01

*feminist

SolasAnla · 30/07/2022 10:08

Secondhand · 30/07/2022 10:01

Laurence Fox is a femist now?

Word logic games, lets to this one.

"Fish live in the sea, therefore Dolphins are fish"

Secondhand · 30/07/2022 10:12

SolasAnla · 30/07/2022 10:08

Word logic games, lets to this one.

"Fish live in the sea, therefore Dolphins are fish"

This whole thread exists because LF posted the progress flag in a format that resembled a swastika, I don't get your point.

Rainbowshit · 30/07/2022 10:17

Datun
Exactly!
Comparing the trans movement to literal Nazis is antsemitic.

So likewise comparing The GC movement to literal Nazis must also be anti semetic, no?

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