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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Stonewall have change the word “research”

193 replies

stealtheatingtunnocks · 23/07/2022 11:49

This is an article citing “research”, which comes from the metro, by a female percentage who believes themselves to be a man.

stonewll does not understand normal child development and this charity is doing harm

twitter.com/stonewalluk/status/1550427949819695104?s=21&t=cGLUbAr7pnFA-jxzzZ6avw

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Datun · 25/07/2022 14:30

Add remember this, if it can't clearly be explained to you, or words change their meaning depending on the context, how the fuck are they teaching it to children?

achillestoes · 25/07/2022 14:39

When they say ‘without having adults’ ideas imposed upon them’, they mean the incontrovertible fact that some people are male and some are female, and you can’t change that attribute of your genetic make-up. So they want, instead, children to be indulged in their make-believe, and adults to gaslight them into genuinely believing that they can be a ‘girl’ because they like pink things, and a ‘boy’ tomorrow if they like karate. But that is false, and dangerous, and ideological.

ResisterRex · 25/07/2022 14:52

Mark Jenkinson MP responds:

twitter.com/markjenkinsonmp/status/1551564151826284545

Datun · 25/07/2022 14:55

achillestoes · 25/07/2022 14:39

When they say ‘without having adults’ ideas imposed upon them’, they mean the incontrovertible fact that some people are male and some are female, and you can’t change that attribute of your genetic make-up. So they want, instead, children to be indulged in their make-believe, and adults to gaslight them into genuinely believing that they can be a ‘girl’ because they like pink things, and a ‘boy’ tomorrow if they like karate. But that is false, and dangerous, and ideological.

Indeed. They are perfectly clear about what ideas they don't want adults to be telling children.

After she’d been attending for a few weeks, she said to me again she was a boy. But then she looked troubled and added that her teacher told her she’s a girl, that she’s always a girl.

Datun · 25/07/2022 15:11

Yeah no one is buying it.

tired and grumpy raven
@gcraven10
Replying to

@simonjedge
It's the most remarkable motte-and-bailey.

"Two-year-olds can recognise their trans identity."
"WTF?!"
"Look at all these hateful bigots raging about primary schools teaching that some children have two mummies or two daddies. Aren't they awful?"

achillestoes · 25/07/2022 15:12

Well quite. What other ‘adult ideas’ do they want children to be insulated from? Round earth? Vaccines? Gravity?

ScrollingLeaves · 25/07/2022 16:11

Yet, many nurseries and schools teach a binary understanding of pre-assigned gender.

In essence, they don’t want adults to yell children they are a girl or a boy.

Are they pretending they mean they don’t want adults to say only boys can play with the cars in the nursery and only girls can play with the dolls?

Are they pretending to believe that at present nursery teachers are telling the children that only men do certain jobs such as be a builder or fireman and only girls can be nurses and teachers?

Wouldloveanother · 25/07/2022 16:19

achillestoes · 25/07/2022 15:12

Well quite. What other ‘adult ideas’ do they want children to be insulated from? Round earth? Vaccines? Gravity?

Well said!

Birdsweepsin · 25/07/2022 16:24

Apparently the claim that they haven't been actively targeting pre-school settings isn't strictly true either...

twitter.com/anyabike/status/1551562582489796608?s=20&t=FAmjd7FWF0R4F9pMCD94Ow

achillestoes · 25/07/2022 16:28

@Birdsweepsin

Of course they are. They started losing big public sector clients and went on a push to replace them with more, smaller clients: schools.

ResisterRex · 25/07/2022 16:31

The wayback machine is your friend here.

TheKeatingFive · 25/07/2022 16:37

My husband and I took to asking whether she felt like a boy or girl, or neither, to let her know we were listening and keeping tabs on any progression either way.

And this is supposed to be the optimal way of bringing up children according to Stonewall? You couldn't make this shit up 🙄

BreatheAndFocus · 25/07/2022 18:30

More Stonewall lies. They lied about the law and got away with it, so now they think they can lie about something we all saw and read by saying we misunderstood it and they didn’t actually say what they patently did say.

They’re so used to talking utter shite wrapped up in arrogant babble, that they’ve lost all self-awareness. Their silly glossary, their redefining of homoSEXuality, their stupid great ‘trans’ umbrella, their incoherent explanations of Gender Ideology - they’re falling apart now and I’m glad. Can’t come a day too soon. They bear no resemblance at all to the previously admirable charity of the same name.

ScrollingLeaves · 25/07/2022 18:50

If you Google this phrase you will find a useful petition you may like to sign.

'Remove references to 'gender identity' from relationships education guidance'

Whatwouldscullydo · 25/07/2022 19:08

And this is supposed to be the optimal way of bringing up children according to Stonewall? You couldn't make this shit up

Theres not even a definition of what a girl or boy identity is so whatever they say is completely meaningless. How its all got so far when the most basic of terms has yet to be defined is incredible.

Wouldloveanother · 25/07/2022 19:31

TheKeatingFive · 25/07/2022 16:37

My husband and I took to asking whether she felt like a boy or girl, or neither, to let her know we were listening and keeping tabs on any progression either way.

And this is supposed to be the optimal way of bringing up children according to Stonewall? You couldn't make this shit up 🙄

Will they keep asking now they’re ‘trans’?

Imnobody4 · 25/07/2022 21:00

#StonewallOut is trending on Twitter now.

mrshoho · 25/07/2022 21:03

Imnobody4 · 25/07/2022 21:00

#StonewallOut is trending on Twitter now.

Good riddance.

achillestoes · 25/07/2022 21:07

They don’t just need to be defunded, they need to be hauled up in front of the Charity Commission and a public inquiry, then fully dismantled and every scrap of their influence stripped out of every public institution. Then we need to salt the ground.

ResisterRex · 25/07/2022 21:16

This may have been archived somewhere. In the Telegraph:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/07/25/stonewall-forced-clarify-tweet-said-two-year-olds-could-transgender/

It's a mix of the appointment story and the trans 2year olds story:

"Stonewall has been forced to issue a clarification over a tweet which said children as young as two could be transgender.
The LGBT charity faced criticism from Conservative MPs on Saturday over the tweet, which suggested many nurseries were not doing enough to help children “recognise their trans identity”.
Ministers are preparing to block Sheldon Millss_, the chairman of Stonewall, from becoming the new head of the competition watchdog following a long-running row over the regulator’s affiliation with the charity."

Ends:

"The CMA, Mr Mills and Stonewall all declined to comment on the Telegraph’s story."

LK1972 · 25/07/2022 21:25

Thanks Resister.

'Ministers are preparing to block Sheldon Mills_, the chairman of Stonewall, from becoming the new head of the competition watchdog' - good, it means they are listening.

Keep writing, wimsSmile

Datun · 25/07/2022 21:58

They're not clarifying their tweet.

They are addressing an issue which no one challenged and wasn't in the article.

And the whole world and his wife, sorry, non-male marriage partner, can see it.

dropthevipers · 25/07/2022 22:25

achillestoes · 25/07/2022 21:07

They don’t just need to be defunded, they need to be hauled up in front of the Charity Commission and a public inquiry, then fully dismantled and every scrap of their influence stripped out of every public institution. Then we need to salt the ground.

I say we take off and nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

achillestoes · 25/07/2022 22:39

@dropthevipers

😂

Time2act · 25/07/2022 23:32

Stonewall is incredibly dangerous. Abuse of children in plain sight. We must all act to shut it down now - write to your Mp and keep writing if they blank you, fill out a charity complaints form, ask your school what links they have to Stonewall, boycott Stonewall businesses. We need to protect our children, schools must regain our trust and safeguard properly. There is so much to uncover, there should be a national enquiry. Politicians must answer for this. 2022 Stonewall top business employers

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