Drag queen banned by National Theatre

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11027323/Drag-star-banned-National-Theatre-joking-children-taught-open-LEGS.html

Did anyone post about this yet?

Maybe now those cutesy story times will be ended too. THIS is what women have been shouting about. The mindset of many grad queens, the other shit in their working lives, SM streams etc. THIS!

Well yes. 6.30 pm is definitely in the evening.

How can those two pictures be exactly the same stage? One has a concrete roof beside it, the other doesn’t.

So the people who were outside the immediate area of the stage, not in the audience and no intention of being in the audience who had children with them and saw many other people with children milling about and said they could hear what was being said on the stage and could see the stage are lying then, just to clarify.

Dani

Of course some people are upset at the existence of drag Queens. They are a parody of women. Overly sexualised usually with stage names that are offensive to women.
Why do you find it shocking that it upsets some people?

@DaniRabbity could you please clarify what time your photo was taken because it appears to have been taken much later than 6-7pm that this person was on stage and tbh if I had been there with children after that disgusting pro pedophilia "joke " I would have left immediately and by the time it was as dark as your photo most families would have left anyway

Has anyone else actually been there?

They are the same stage.

The pale concrete building is the National Theatre, and is directly next to the stage. If you're standing on the stage, then the NT is diagonally in front of you to the left. It's not a roof, just the slanting walls. I can't find exactly the same angle but if you look at the NT, you can see that it has these big concrete 'levels' that stick out and sort of overhang.

So the photo taken from the stage, the camera is pointing left so you can see the walls and one of the 'overhangs' of the NT. The other photo is taken from on top of one of the 'overhangs' so doesn't show the NT building.

How can those two pictures be exactly the same stage? One has a concrete roof beside it, the other doesn’t.

It's not a roof, it's the side of the South Bank Centre. The event is taking place in an open space next to the SBC.

For the millionth time YES the comment is the issue.

However, on the other thread we were being told it wasn't an issue, it was part of Drag culture, that's not what the performer meant, we don't understand, we are ridiculous, we are frothing, we are right wing.

You are arguing about not conflating Drag and paedophilia, I am NOT doing that. Upset about the existence of Drag Queens? What are you on? I vehemently disagree that Drag should be promoted to children, there should be NO DQSH, Drag is adult entertainment. Protecting children is keeping them away from forms of adult entertainment not having it promoted to them under the cover of diversity.

What has that got to do with pro-paedophilia jokes? It's the paedophilia that's important here, not drag.

Hoardasurass to answer your question the photo was taken later but still in daylight. The photo looks dark because it's angled towards one of the concrete overhangs and the overhang is creating a lot of shade and blocking out direct sunlight (I eat lunch there every day and that corner is always dark and shady), but if you look at the top right corner you can see that it's sunny.

The NT website did state that there would be family friendly activities in the billing.

Believe me be glad you can't see it!! There's no enough brain bleach in the world to rid that vision out of my head

Any individual making "jokes" of this nature and content,should (regardless of venue or time of day) face serious jail time, wtaf fk goes on in the mind of someone to think this is funny!
I really dispair for our children!
When is society going to actually stand up and say enough is enough!

Ok re the ohoto I can see where it’s taken now.

Still doesn’t distract from the fact this Drag “artist” made a joke about child abuse and should never be anywhere near a child.

What has that got to do with pro-paedophilia jokes? It's the paedophilia that's important here, not drag.

People are capable of being upset by 2 things at once believe it or not!

Of course the sexual "joke" made about children is an issue does that really need to be clarified? People can also be upset by the existence of drag queen's at the same time.

Good I'm glad its been banned. It'll be so much the other way soon you wnte able to see run of the mill stuff any more as they are catering to the minority.
Save it for panto

Then why is almost everyone ignoring the "joke"? Why are posters determined to derail the thread into being anti-drag in general? Big rants about the existence of drag, yet I am the only person on this thread willing to come out and explicitly say "That comment is pro-paedophilia and is dangerous." Most posters are ignoring the 'joke' completely!

This thread certainly gives the impression that it's existence of drag queens that posters object to, and they don't really give a shit about the comment.

I've been on Feminist Chat for a very long time and am deeply suspicious. Far too much material here for those wanting screencaps for Twitter, and those wanting to discredit us as bigots who are pretending to care about children.

Then why is almost everyone ignoring the "joke"? Why are posters determined to derail the thread into being anti-drag in general?

Nobody is ignoring the joke what has happened is posters are now talking about why children were exposed to the joke, why did the act think the joke was appropriate, is it because drag is now being marketed towards children, why is it being marketed towards children and such like. The thread is just evolving as discussions do.

"Ms Sharon Le Grand said children should be taught to 'open their minds, open their hearts and open their legs' "

How does somebody become so emboldened, so unafraid of what they are saying out loud in plain sight?

And they don Woman Face to deliver their message.

Why is the National Theatre funding someone who would make a joke like that? Because drag, that's why. To try and pretend this has nothing to do with drag is disingenuous at best. The whole point of drag is that it transgresses boundaries.

All this whole sorry tale demonstrates is that drag and children don't mix.

Ever.

Nobody is "pretending it has nothing to do with drag."

Just that "drag shows aimed at adults are wrong" is not the best approach to take in a thread about a specific pro-pedophilia joke and more broadly a conversation about how society normalises pedophilia because of the risk of it being exploited and twisted.

Personally I am heavily side-eying the claim that "loads of children" were present and hope that is not true.

Anyone who drags their kids to an adult evening drag show advertised as being hosted by someone named "Sue Gives A Fuck", with a rowdy audience of adults drinking alcohol, needs to be reported to social services.

Look at the photo of the crowd. Would you take your kids into that crowd? I certainly wouldn't.

This thread certainly gives the impression that it's existence of drag queens that posters object to, and they don't really give a shit about the comment.

No it doesn't. Unlike the other thread where there were posters defending the comment and calling those of us who disagreed frothing right wingers, we were ridiculous, didn't understand the culture around Drag, and on and on and one who even after the performer was banned came on to tell us that the comment was never made. Did you go on that thread @DaniRabbity and pull up those posters?

You seem very touchy about anyone criticising Drag as a concept, why is that? Are we not allowed to have an opinion on Drag? As was pointed out on the other thread normalising Drag as suitable for a children's story hour in a library and on mainstream (licence payer funded) TV warps the boundaries and some people then believe it is perfectly acceptable children friendly entertainment - it isn't.

The comment was dire and inappropriate and the artist deserves the ban

I used to find drag entertainment- loved the everyone’s talking about Jamie musical etc

however now I view drag as much more than just funny to watch and liberating for some blokes -
I see it as a disgusting nasty piss take of real women

I hope it gets as much vilification as cultural appropriation / sexism does and should.

Also, @DaniRabbity people have said they were in the vicinity, there were children and families in the vicinity and that they heard and saw the act, they are NOT saying they took their children into the audience - you are calling them liars saying they couldn't possibly have seen or heard the show.

Sorry Dani but I agree you do seem very touchy about posters negatively discussing drag. So much so you have accused them of derailing the thread despite the fact that it was a drag artist who made the comment so obviously drag will be discussed. You have also called people liars for stating that children were present and heard the joke.

You are not being attacked in anyway. Posters where asking you to explain why you called the parents liars.