Learning-disabled girls & women must accept men providing intimate care

[MrsOvertonsWindow]

This dreadful account from Transgender Trend is no doubt replicated all over the country as schools / social care / the NHS remove the rights to sex based care for these vulnerable young women, allowing men to provide intimate / personal care. Prioritising (yet again) the demands of this toxic lobby insisting that the safety, privacy and rights of women and girls no longer matter.

Warning - contains information about rape / HIV

www.transgendertrend.com/severely-learning-disabled-girl-sex-based-rights-under-threat/

I read an account of an elderly woman in a care home suffering with dementia who was not only denied access to same sex carers for her intimate care but gas lit and handled roughly to punish? her for her distress because you know she's a hideous transphobe to insist that the man with long hair is a man with long hair without taking proper account of his feelings.

The expectations are not fair and reasonable.

it's heartbreaking stuff

Heartbreaking is right. Those parents speaking with so much love, care and respect about their daughter while her rights are being trashed by those in thrall to this predatory men's rights movement.

Fucking hell.

do you remember he case of the woman on the USA who was in a nursing home to care for her persistent vegetative state who was found to be groaning and then they realised she was in labour?

in fucking labour.

I think about her a lot. I think her family took the infant. Raising her rapists child. She’d probably been raped for years.

lib fems need to listen to the voiceless women.

Was coming to say this.

Mentally disabled women are just to vulnerable and perverted men will take advantage of that even if they claim to be a transwoman

How warped your mind must be to think it's ok to do this to such vulnerable women and girls.
There are not enough words to describe my disgust and anger at the way men are always prioritised in this movement over the well-being and safety of women and children.

I totally hear this and respect the preference for personal care provision from a woman, but what if no female carers are available that day?

I work in a care-associated job and we have some male carers. I have met a couple of trans carers too. Sometimes we literally have only males on a shift- peak covid times for example. Admittedly, we have had clients and families request female only (and unfortunately, only from particular races but that’s another story entirely), but have sometimes been able to send who’s available for work that day.

What do you do if there are no female carers for personal care?

That article is utterly heartbreaking. This just shouldn't even be a discussion. It is absolutely incredible that those poor parents are having to argue for this. And the additional story, Cassie's story, just beyond words; I feel physically sick.

do you remember he case of the woman on the USA who was in a nursing home to care for her persistent vegetative state who was found to be groaning and then they realised she was in labour?

If that case wasn't horrifying enough, the doctors thought it wasn't the first time she'd given birth.

Staffing issues should not determine someone’s access to their rights for privacy, dignity and safety.

id have female only care homes, myself.

Safeguarding training used to focus on the importance of ensuring rigorous supervision and observation skills to ensure that children with a variety of special needs / disabilities are safe. They are often targeted by predators specifically because they are unable to "tell" and if they are able to disclose, may well not be "effective" witnesses in court so the abuser gets away with his crimes - repeatedly.
The idea that institutions are making predator's lives easier because trans extremists demand this is so shocking.

What do you do if there are no female carers for personal care?

If there's a shortage of carers, hire more.

Fucking hell that’s just awful, heartbreaking. We absolutely know that men seek to abuse these women, after Saville there’s no not knowing that men will seek access to disabled women and girls to attack. Where is the safe-guarding?

It’s so distressing to read.

I have a dd who will need life long care and this scares the s**t out of me, I can not protect her forever, she will always rely on carers and is extremely vulnerable, I wouldn’t feel comfortable with her receiving personal care from male care staff. I have several friends who are male carers and they tend to be given male clients.

My dd is not very verbal so could not tell anyone if she suffered abuse. It’s very worrying that vulnerable girls/women could be placed in such a dangerous situation.

Do you argue that if there's no cook then people don't get to eat? That if the caretaker doesn't unlock the building everyone must stay inside?

I understand it's difficult but we're not talking about staffing pressures. The article clearly explains how the school decided that prioritising cross gender diversity for their staff took preference over the girl's rights to same sex care. And (tellingly) when even their lawyer told them they had to follow the law and provide same sex care they used the old Stonewall trope about the law was outdated and against majority opinion
This is using the most vulnerable in society without a voice to satisfy the demands of men who don't respect boundaries. It's as sinister as it gets.

Whilst this is absolutely horrifying I'm so glad that TT have published this.

I've been trying to raise these points in teaching forums around communication differences and needs and the vulnerability of children and people like this. It gets brushed aside. I've tried on twitter. It doesn't seem to click.

Cassie’s story – a severely learning-disabled woman without a voice

The most severely learning-disabled women cannot speak, write or type; they lack capacity; they have no voice.

A particularly harrowing case is that of Cassie, an autistic non-verbal woman in her mid-fifties, with severe learning disabilities.

She had lived in institutions since childhood. Over several years from 2013 her health deteriorated, with no cause being identified. Eventually she was tested for HIV and found to be infected. It was determined that Cassie’s HIV had been sexually transmitted. The severity of Cassie’s learning disabilities was such that she did not have capacity to consent to sexual relations, and so must have been raped. The only men who had access to her were the male care staff in her institution, her home. It was concluded that she had been raped by one or more of her care staff. The perpetrators have not been identified and may still be working there.

These stories are way more common than people think.

The children I work with have more communication ability but not enough to deal with the nonsense bs of vagina people v penis people and who is a man or a woman, pronoun nonsense etc.

When we cover puberty/sex Ed it's exceptionally carefully and clearly done. The same LA based teacher delivers to primary as secondary and she takes the same language and visuals up with them.

Some of this teaching is to support their ability to communicate need and in the worst case scenario potentially make a disclosure.

Queer theory is all about blurring and eroding boundaries.

*Staffing issues should not determine someone’s access to their rights for privacy, dignity and safety.

id have female only care homes, myself.*

Totally get where you’re coming from @stealtheatingtunnocks but so many women don’t want to be carers and many men- often doing second jobs for more money- are happy to work in care homes.

My aunt is paying just over 2K a week in a wonderful, high end care home. When I arrived she was in the toilet with a lovely male carer. If she’d wanted a female it wouldn’t have been possible as they were mainly men on today and the 3 female carers on that floor were on their break. If she’d waited for them, she’d have had an accident and as she didn’t have a choice, she accepted the male carer.

Sorry if I’ve missed the point, OP- and I won’t add another post so as not to derail your thread- but people need to be aware that personal care is often provided by male carers these days and will be commonplace now due to lack of female carers, or mainly, due to a rise in need for care staff. They are also often asked to do manual handling as many clients’ hoists are very heavy and awkward to move (as an ex-carer I can attest to this and hurt my back in this way).

This would definitely be my preference for my vulnerable family members.

Absolutely horrifying. The safety of the most vulnerable women and girls means nothing in comparison to the ego and feelings of men. When will the majority of the public wake up and join the fight?

You raise a really important point Nelles.

Unfortunately the only answer is female staff and rigorous codes of conduct / whistle blowing policies.

I'm furious the pretend "most vulnerable and marginalised males in society" are being given rights over the ACTUAL most marginalised and vulnerable females in society.