Learning-disabled girls & women must accept men providing intimate care

[MrsOvertonsWindow]

This dreadful account from Transgender Trend is no doubt replicated all over the country as schools / social care / the NHS remove the rights to sex based care for these vulnerable young women, allowing men to provide intimate / personal care. Prioritising (yet again) the demands of this toxic lobby insisting that the safety, privacy and rights of women and girls no longer matter.

Warning - contains information about rape / HIV

www.transgendertrend.com/severely-learning-disabled-girl-sex-based-rights-under-threat/

I'm not sure why anyone would make the assumption I'm male.... I'm not.

You can say whatever you like about yourself, of course. But you’ve thoroughly shown us who you are.

I'm proud of who I am. I don't need to pretend. Im respected in the community and am known as a person that get things done less the faff.

The assumption comes from your posts.

Park keeping is nothing like public toilets being unisex or single sex.
Hth

The 'faff' being other people's rights, feelings, autonomy, person centred care, equality, access, all the silly time wasting things like that.

If you have to post this, its usually not true.

Nrtt, @Adelishious good for you. Just out of curiosity, what do you consider to be 'faff'?

I could say something equally silly such as "I notice government spending has increased for park keeping, therefore women are seen as less important than flowers!"

If a local council decided to save money by not recruiting adequate female carers to ensure same sex care but at the same time spent additional money on parks then yes you could say women were seen less important than flowers.

So, you're not going to claim that these security measures on the part of large retailers are an infringement of workers' rights, then?

Interesting.

So companies in retail can take that level of care to prevent their property being stolen by staff. But companies in care can't take steps to prevent male staff having the opportunity to harm female clients and to respect female clients' wishes, because you think it's discrimination.

Funny, aint it. (No, it isn't.)

Details from the Whorlton Hall abuse scandal:

"A patient with learning disabilities at Whorlton Hall, Alex had a fear of men. Male staff enjoyed provoking and torturing her with threats to “press the man button”, inundate her bedroom with men. Single sex care is justified by this alone.

They await trial; Alex is happy+safe. "

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Full article from the BBC here:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-48367071

Women in care homes often have male nurses deliver intimate care. Why would a trans woman delivering care be worse?

Out of interest, why have you resurrected this nearly-three-year-old thread, @mumnumberone ?

To answer your question: Male people should not be providing intimate care for women and girls. If a particular male person tries to gaslight vulnerable women and girls that they area woman, it adds insult to injury.

Have you read the article in the OP?

For anyone reading this bumped thread who has not read it yet, please go and read it (and the comments too).

Link here> https://www.transgendertrend.com/severely-learning-disabled-girl-sex-based-rights-under-threat/

One of the exchanges of posts from 2022 was about a male trans health care worker who looked so much like a woman that you couldn't tell he wasn't female [I'm paraphrasing from memory], so what's the harm if you don't know you aren't being cared for by a woman?

A poster replied was that it would be unethical for the carer who knows he is not female to present himself as female to someone who expressly asked for woman-only care.
That was 2022, and it was hypothetical.

Since then there was DrU in Fife who stated it would be OK for him to treat a patient who had explicitly asked for a female doctor; he said would treat the woman anyway, and only desist if she asked him to stop treating her.

In other words, only if it dawned on the distressed patient in A&E that the person intimately examining her was not in fact a woman, despite the clothes and make-up and despite the reasonable assumption that since she had asked for a woman doctor, she would get a woman doctor:

"That's how it works. You don't know if she'd accept a trans woman. You'd explain how the exam works and stopping when the patient wants you to. Our job is to make people comfy. It's appropriate for a doctor to see this patient."

Hypothetical in 2022, reality in 2024.

"A patient with learning disabilities at Whorlton Hall, Alex had a fear of men. Male staff enjoyed provoking and torturing her with threats to “press the man button”, inundate her bedroom with men. Single sex care is justified by this alone.

Fucking sadistic bastards.

Employ more, pay better. Only women should look after women, so this should be a criteria for the job i.e. only biological women to apply for the jobs. Stop running care services for profit rather than care - which means removing private providers, or at least those that are businesses rather than charities.

They should be put in prison.

Great post.

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Hopefully some of them are

Does ‘ X sentence suspended for 18 months’ mean they were never actually imprisoned?

Err, good question, I don't know - I assumed it meant they went to prison but you might be right! X

A suspended sentence means no jail time.
Basically the amount of time the sentence is suspended for is a type of probation that says be good for X amount of time and your sentence is over without setting foot in a jail, if your arrested for a crime which you are later found guilty of during the period of suspension your sentence should be included in your jail term for the new crime.
The problem is that they often get ignored by the crts or a 2nd or 3rd suspended sentence and if the are taken into account it's served concurrently with the new sentence instead of consecutively. What that means is if you get a 2 year suspended sentence and then go on to commit another crime and are give a 2 year jail term plus the 2 years that you already owed you only have to serve a maximum of 2 years rather than the 4 years you should have

A lot of care staff are female, but not everywhere. I got stuck in a nursing home for a few years. My floor sometimes only had a few female staff. Sometimes at night there was just one female HCA at night, not even working on my floor.

I'd have to wait over 1.5hours or more for care.

My placement there was under safeguarding due to SA from my husband. The placement knew this, & that I refused to have males in my room.

When the male night nurse worked I'd go without my injection until day shift, even though it was prescribed eight hourly. For morphine sometimes one male nurse would send the HCA in with it, he stayed at the door. The male agency nurse refused this, I stayed in pain.

There are real consequences to male care staff.

I have 24/7 care at home now. I've made my requirements for female (sex, not gender) care very clear.

I still panic when I have agency turn up, wondering if my request has been respected, especially on nights.

The standard should be female led care for female clients, unless indicated otherwise.

There should be sufficient female staff to.ensure that they can always provide a proper single sex service to females.
It shouldn't be too difficult to place female staff in female care homes/wards and male staff in male care homes/wards.