Fck it. Just going to identify as agender as a GC feminist.

[Metabigot]

I'm technically agender anyway as I choose to not believe in gender woo.

If males can infiltrate feminism by saying they're women I'm infiltrating transgendersism by identifying as agender.

If I'm asked my gender identity why shouldn't I say this, it's technically true according to stonewall.

Quite like the idea of being a double agent of sorts....

(Not meaning to say you have a proverbial mote in your eye, @Ereshkigalangcleg !
Rather just commenting on the perennial inevitability of how quickly those who want to accuse others of mean-spiritedness leap to name-calling themselves…. 🤣)

Indeed nightwalkingmoon.

I'm not being disengenous. I'd have said it if it's what I meant. I do think the statement you made was a bullying statement. I couldn't pick you out of a line up, so I couldn't accuse you of that.

I find it bizarre you think I'm so scared of the MN forces that I wouldn't just stick by my word. I said it, I meant it, but I didn't mean it at you as a person.

Sorry I got your name wrong Nightwakingmoon, that's probably some kind of hate crime.

Do you not think trans women get death and rape threats too, then?

No, the mocking of trans people is about.........trans people.

I don't understand how you can't see the damage of the division.

Do you not think trans women get death and rape threats too, then?

My experience of my life doesn't revolve around what trans people experience. And no I don't think they get them as much as women, but I'm not an expert.

You: “Course you would. Bullies usually do like their victims to just go away.“

The referent of “Bullies” in this phrase is “you”. Not “your opinion”.

At the risk of this (hah! 😂) becoming even more tedious, please do spare us the pretence when we can all actually read what you wrote.

That, I understand. And I admire your passion and fight and IRL, I'd probably agree with you.

My point is, even with the snarky comment to night there, that if someone was to come on and take the piss out of women , you would (rightly) be up in arms.

So how is it OK?

Thank you nightwakingmoon.

I have now ceased to exist from the sheer distress 😂😂🤣

"we can all" being you and your pal, who is bright enough to be able to speak for herself without your endless tedious posts and intent to provoke a pile on.

I don't have to explain myself to you.

yes it's funny, isn't it. the impact on someone of being dead named. Absolutely hilarious. Until it's you, or your child, or your friend.

So how is it OK?

Why isn't ok to gently mock an ideology you think is harmful and absurd? As pp have said, women are putting up with a lot, we are constantly attacked and abused and sometimes we need to let off steam. Non binary doesn't make any sense, humour is a valid way of desconstructing it or everyone's speech would be entirely boring. Are you saying no one is ever allowed to laugh about anything, however ridiculous? Good luck with that manifesto.

I don’t have to explain myself to you

That’s good, I completely agree. Perhaps we can both agree then that all the women on this thread don’t have to explain themselves to you either, and you can pop off and stop complaining about them being mean bullies.

I have now ceased to exist from the sheer distress

Careful now or the police will be along next.

ah, another one that wants me to leave their thread because I don't fit into your little gang. If the cap fits.

Tell that to Ricky Gervais

Humour and comedy can be an excellent way to make a point

We are pretty good at in in this country, thank god.

I am a woman. I'm a care experienced woman, so don't talk to me about needing to let off steam about being badly treated. I still don't think that the attacking of women online allows for me to be as nasty as I like about everyone else.

I stand with good people of all groups, trans or otherwise. I know good womena and bad women. good and bad trans. I don't like mocking of anyone. If someone was mocking you as a woman I'd have said the same thing.

These are real people.

And the annoying thing is you're blatantly intelligent, but you can't see the damage the divide is doing.

Anyway back to the OP, which was mine

I AM agender. I'm not saying this to take the piss, I genuinely don't recognise a gender for myself.

Who is anyone to say that is piss taking or to deny my lived reality as an agender person?

Serious question

Tell that to Ricky Gervais

Humour and comedy can be an excellent way to make a point

We are pretty good at in in this country, thank god.

YY. I'm not sure I want to live in a world where a) no humour is allowed ever, or b) where everyone else is allowed to attack women but they can't ever make fun back.

Humour yes, but not cruel.

I like Ricky Gervais, but I wouldn't watch Jimmy Carr or Frankie Boyle who think ill children and disabled people are fair game. Where do we draw the line?

But I don't approve of the attacking of women either. I'd say the same thing on a thread mocking women, and I'd make the same comment if someone on a thead like that told me to stay on social media.

You might not agree with my views, but I apply them across the board. I don't like nastiness and mean spirit, full stop.

I AM agender. I'm not saying this to take the piss, I genuinely don't recognise a gender for myself.

Exactly. Me too. What else should I call myself? If I have to fit into the framework I am agender like people who don't believe in god are atheists.

I don't disagree with you.

It was the posts which were spiteful that I didn't like, which apparently on MN is a crime.

But I don't approve of the attacking of women either. I'd say the same thing on a thread mocking women, and I'd make the same comment if someone on a thead like that told me to stay on social media.

You might not agree with my views, but I apply them across the board. I don't like nastiness and mean spirit, full stop.

The nasty comments to women aren't stopping any time soon, so I'll take your opinions with the weight they deserve.