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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Fck it. Just going to identify as agender as a GC feminist.

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Metabigot · 25/06/2022 17:25

I'm technically agender anyway as I choose to not believe in gender woo.

If males can infiltrate feminism by saying they're women I'm infiltrating transgendersism by identifying as agender.

If I'm asked my gender identity why shouldn't I say this, it's technically true according to stonewall.

Quite like the idea of being a double agent of sorts....

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Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 15:27

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:26

Ironic that you call me dishonest

It's not remotely ironic. We can add that word to "straw man" "disingenuous" and other words you appear to have an alternative definition of.

Can we add rude and misogynistic to the list?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:28

By the way - you are not mocking nutters on twitter. They couldn't care less what you think.

So? It's not about what they think.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:30

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:23

You're mocking a whole ideology based on the threat that 1 percent pose.

I see you don't read posts properly. The pp pithily said that you shouldn't mock 1% because of what 99% do. It was a bit of a zinger, I thought. But then I have a sense of humour.

Yeah, the mental health around trans is really funny.

PomegranateOfPersephone · 26/06/2022 15:31

Have you quite finished completely derailing the thread

oh the irony 🤣

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:31

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:28

By the way - you are not mocking nutters on twitter. They couldn't care less what you think.

So? It's not about what they think.

but it is.

Your whole fear and anger about trans is based on their views - if it isn't, why do you constantly bring up the rape and death treats, when its not the vast majority of people doing it?

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:32

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 15:27

Can we add rude and misogynistic to the list?

Could you point out where I called anyone misognystic or rude - unless of course you are insulting me (something which is only allowed on MN if its towards someone who dares go to go against the powers that be and their transphobic views).

FemmeNatal · 26/06/2022 15:32

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:20

oh i SEE.

So views are OK, as long as they're not about you.

Brilliant.

I did read your paragraph but given I don't think you could tell me my views if I asked, excuse me if I don't take you seriously.

Ironic that you call me dishonest while pretending to care about people you have diagnosed with a psychological condition, I've heard it all now.

Gender dysphoria is literally a psychological condition. Do you not even understand the basics of what you are trying to lecture people about?

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:33

FemmeNatal · 26/06/2022 15:32

Gender dysphoria is literally a psychological condition. Do you not even understand the basics of what you are trying to lecture people about?

Well aware thanks, but who is anyone to diagnose someone who is transgender with gender dysphoria?

Do you think I'm naive enough to not get the implication that anyone trans must have a disorder because in MN world gender is made up so therefore the rest of the world must follow suit?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:33

Yeah, the mental health around trans is really funny.

These dishonest straw men you keep constructing are really piling up here.

FemmeNatal · 26/06/2022 15:33

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:20

But you are.

You're mocking a whole ideology based on the threat that 1 percent pose.

Read it again champ, I was posting about the problematic 99%, not the rest.

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 15:34

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:31

but it is.

Your whole fear and anger about trans is based on their views - if it isn't, why do you constantly bring up the rape and death treats, when its not the vast majority of people doing it?

So how many rape and death threats do we have to accept before we are allowed to be angry and frightened? Just give us a number. I mean we’re in the high thousands now so place your bid. Why are you not there telling those people to stop doing that? Why come here and whinge at women for calling out the absurdity of this whole ideology?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:34

What is "trans" if not gender dysphoria?

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:34

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:33

Yeah, the mental health around trans is really funny.

These dishonest straw men you keep constructing are really piling up here.

"But then I have a sense of humour." the implication being that you can laugh at and mock trans people cause its just so funny.

But of course you will just come back and say I'm lying, because you've got very good at implying things and then backing off and claiming you didn't.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:35

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:34

What is "trans" if not gender dysphoria?

I'd be careful here, as what you appear to be implying is that every transgender person is mentally ill.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:35

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 15:34

So how many rape and death threats do we have to accept before we are allowed to be angry and frightened? Just give us a number. I mean we’re in the high thousands now so place your bid. Why are you not there telling those people to stop doing that? Why come here and whinge at women for calling out the absurdity of this whole ideology?

"whinge"

Classic attempt to shut down women.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:35

why do you constantly bring up the rape and death treats, when its not the vast majority of people doing it?

I don't know what proportion it is, but it's quite a lot of them.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:35

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:34

What is "trans" if not gender dysphoria?

You also said that you believed a small number had gender dysphoria.

What do you think drives the rest, then?

FemmeNatal · 26/06/2022 15:36

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:33

Well aware thanks, but who is anyone to diagnose someone who is transgender with gender dysphoria?

Do you think I'm naive enough to not get the implication that anyone trans must have a disorder because in MN world gender is made up so therefore the rest of the world must follow suit?

That’s what being trans is, champ, someone living “as” the opposite sex to ameliorate the symptoms of gender dysphoria.

This religious view you have of a sexed soul, it’s unevidenced.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:36

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:35

why do you constantly bring up the rape and death treats, when its not the vast majority of people doing it?

I don't know what proportion it is, but it's quite a lot of them.

Is it, though?

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:36

FemmeNatal · 26/06/2022 15:36

That’s what being trans is, champ, someone living “as” the opposite sex to ameliorate the symptoms of gender dysphoria.

This religious view you have of a sexed soul, it’s unevidenced.

If you say so, champ.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:37

I'd be careful here, as what you appear to be implying is that every transgender person is mentally ill.

Gender dysphoria isn't classed as a mental illness, and what do you have against mental illnesses anyway?

Again, what else is there than gender dysphoria. I'm genuinely interested.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:38

Is it, though?

Yes.

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 15:38

Could you point out where I called anyone misognystic or rude - unless of course you are insulting me (something which is only allowed on MN if its towards someone who dares go to go against the powers that be and their transphobic views).

reading comprehension is not your strong point Is it sweetie. I was calling YOU misogynistic and rude.

FemmeNatal · 26/06/2022 15:38

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:36

If you say so, champ.

Oh, you think there’s evidence for it?

Brilliant, dualism hasn’t been in vogue for ages now, so this should be good.

What’s the evidence for an innate gender identity?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:39

What do you think drives the rest, then?

A variety of things.

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