Fck it. Just going to identify as agender as a GC feminist.

[Metabigot]

I'm technically agender anyway as I choose to not believe in gender woo.

If males can infiltrate feminism by saying they're women I'm infiltrating transgendersism by identifying as agender.

If I'm asked my gender identity why shouldn't I say this, it's technically true according to stonewall.

Quite like the idea of being a double agent of sorts....

Oh I see so insults, name-calling and labelling are fine communication techniques to use against women posting on mumsnet but gently mocking the currently most dominant ideology in society is not acceptable. Now I understand your perspective a bit more clearly.

It’s not, it’s mocking other features of them. Why is it fine for you to be so unpleasant to people, but not for anyone else to be?

An innate gender identity is a ridiculous idea. It is unevidenced, implausible, and is being used to erode women’s rights. It’s more than acceptable to mock anyone who exposes it, it’s a civic duty to do so.

Gender identity belongs in the same box as white supremacy and phrenology.

Because I'm not actually being unpleasant to people, per se.

I'm rebutting responses to me, which arent connected to anything to do with them.

What features am I mocking, given that I don't know them?

your last post is entirely transphobic - and encouraging others to behave in a manner - "its a civic duty". Outrageous.

Are you Kathy Newman? You said that people don’t have the right to mock others. It was a stupid thing to say, as they do, so I corrected you.

Why would you now dishonestly pretend that I was saying that it’s fine? Do you really not have the ability to argue honestly here?

no, that's nothing like what i said.

I feel a bit sorry for @placewherewebelong . obiosky not very clued up as to why women might feel that mocking gender ideology is appropriate. Would @placewherewebelong prefer us to us the tactics of the people we are mocking? So doxing, death threats, rape threats, getting people fired?

You have directly insulted people. You called one person boring, I believe. Why are you now lying, again, and claiming that you didn’t?

Do you think that everyone has the same mental capacity as you, and won’t remember what you posted a short time ago?

Back to OP: could some please explain the difference between a-gender and non-binary?
(I do like the idea of jumping on the bandwagon. I have a young relative who has just announced a name change from a female name to a male name and requested we all use the new name. When I next visit, I am thinking of announcing my own change. ie “although you’ve been calling me “Mary” all your life, please now call me “Jeremiah””.

Oh, and on your last point, no. There is no difference between you claiming that humans have an inobservable gendered soul and someone else telling me I will go to hell if I don’t love Jeebers.

Both are religious views, neither is deserving of respect.

I refer you to the posts where PPs objected to me putting words in their mouth/said i was disingenous. And you?

By the way - you are not mocking nutters on twitter. They couldn't care less what you think.

Youre mocking vulnerable teenagers and young people who are already struggling.

I will never not roll my eyes at gender ideology. I truly wish I could just roll my eyes at the whole thing whilst muttering "blinking kids, what will they think of next?" under my breath. I'd like it to be a minor irritation. Actually I'd LOVE it to be a minor irritation. But it's not. The tendrils of gender ideology have crept into my life via numerous little racks, and I'm about, thanks to the SNP, to lose my own rights to female only spaces.

The ideology is obliterating my single sex rights, right now, in 2022.

Damn fucking right I mock the ideology. What else can I do? My rights are being stripped away right in front of my eyes and I'm being told its mean and spiteful to be unhappy about it?

I'm aware of the post you are referring to. I referred to the PP as boring, in their repetition of the same post.

I am obviously not calling them personally boring - I coudln't pick them out of a line up.

Have you quite finished completely derailing the thread in your attack of me or would you like to further remind me of things I know I said and stand by?

I see.

Do you stand at funerals and rip the piss out of people who believe their loved one is going to heaven?

I thought not.

Yet this is acceptable. Why?

We should not tar the 1% with the actions of the 99%, that’s true.

Excellent point.

To be fair, I think if every teenagers mum who got told this gubbins said ‘oh yes and I’m a non binary graygender demiboi and my pronouns are zee/zay, the teenagers would soon knock it off. It’s like warm your mum announces she fancies the same pop star as you, suddenly they’re not cool and never spoken again. As to these people being vulnerable, how do. You don’t see many BIPOC kids from the rough areas of Bradford coming out with these neopronouns, or working class white kids from Sheffield. They’re mostly middle class kids with no other struggles in their lives who want to be oppressed and marginalised but can’t cos they’re the wrong class and colour.

Do you stand at funerals and rip the piss out of people who believe their loved one is going to heaven?

I thought not.

Can you honestly, hand on heart, see no difference between mocking the grieving at their own funeral and mildly poking fun at the self absorbed on mumsnet? I think that says more about you to be honest.

Because people at a funeral aren’t using their religious beliefs to take away women’s rights, aren’t trying to get people sacked for not repeating their shibboleths, and aren’t trying to lecture women on a (mainly) women’s website for not pandering to their religion all the time.

Your views are risible, they are harmful, they are child-like, poorly formed, incoherent, and deserving of no respect whatsoever.

And given your utter dishonesty, I should add that none of this has anything to do with treating people with gender dysphoria with respect as they work to deal with a serious psychological condition.

Yes. It's quite obvious how little people care about women.

oh i SEE.

So views are OK, as long as they're not about you.

Brilliant.

I did read your paragraph but given I don't think you could tell me my views if I asked, excuse me if I don't take you seriously.

Ironic that you call me dishonest while pretending to care about people you have diagnosed with a psychological condition, I've heard it all now.

But you are.

You're mocking a whole ideology based on the threat that 1 percent pose.

Completely untrue.

You're mocking a whole ideology based on the threat that 1 percent pose.

I see you don't read posts properly. The pp pithily said that you shouldn't mock 1% because of what 99% do. It was a bit of a zinger, I thought. But then I have a sense of humour.

No, it’s really not. It’s for the saner reason not meant working class women are into this bullshit. They haven’t got time. Again, this is a middle class movement which disproportionately affects working class women and women of colour.

Ironic that you call me dishonest

It's not remotely ironic. We can add that word to "straw man" "disingenuous" and other words you appear to have an alternative definition of.

Again, this is a middle class movement which disproportionately affects working class women and women of colour.

This.