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Julie Bindel & venue for MVAW talk in Nottingham

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ifIwerenotanandroid · 24/06/2022 20:18

twitter.com/bindelj/status/1540377548387131392

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picklemewalnuts · 24/06/2022 20:29

Outrageous. What's the point of making misogyny a hate crime, if you don't recognise it.

NotTerfNorCis · 24/06/2022 20:51

Those same TRAs who're stopping women gathering in the UK are on Twitter blaming gender critical feminists for what's just happened in America.

ScreamingMeMe · 24/06/2022 20:58

Apparently a Labour Councillor was involved:

"Shout out to @CllrDavidMellen who has pressured @NottmLibraries to pull tomorrows talk with @bindelj at 3.30pm the day before. Apparently we’re all banned from going into the library.

Don’t worry Dave, we’ll still be there mate."

twitter.com/VitriolicViolet/status/1540366523033948163?t=BJ-quO7e9R_xT_3Q_J8GAg&s=19

picklemewalnuts · 24/06/2022 21:00

Nottingham is thoroughly fallen. It's so frustrating.

FemaleAndLearning · 24/06/2022 21:27

It's Pride month and the wrong type of lesbian has just been banned from talking about VAWG - said by someone on twitter in roughly those words.
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Julie Bindel & venue for MVAW talk in Nottingham
FemaleAndLearning · 24/06/2022 21:28

Does anyone know which library? I may be able to get over there.

Julie Bindel & venue for MVAW talk in Nottingham
ToriaB · 24/06/2022 21:51

Aspley library, Nuthall Road, Nottingham, NG8 5DD

donquixotedelamancha · 24/06/2022 21:55

Apparently a Labour Councillor was involved

I wonder whether that's just speculation because he's been a dick before.

I can't help but think that pulling a women's rights event at such short notice might amount to sex discrimination.

FemaleAndLearning · 24/06/2022 22:01

Thanks @ToriaB

Datun · 24/06/2022 22:09

She's going ahead with it anyway. Good.

Let's get these bloody optics on the front page of every newspaper.

i'm pretty certain there are laws against pulling public meetings due to harassment.

littlbrowndog · 24/06/2022 22:11

Yes datun

donquixotedelamancha · 24/06/2022 22:12

The councillors for the ward the library is in are:

Graham Chapman (Labour) Telephone: 0115 876 4174
Patience Uloma Ifediora (Labour) Telephone: 07983 835930
Carole McCulloch (Labour) Telephone: 07852 520093

The Library is: [email protected] 0115 915 2802

lovelyweathertoday · 24/06/2022 23:34

I'll be contacting my councillor, in a neighbouring ward.

FemaleAndLearning · 25/06/2022 00:17

People on Twitter saying the councillor has committed misconduct by telling the library to cancel.

Puffincino · 25/06/2022 10:25

So here's the council's statement in full, tweeted out on the @mynottingham account (not the library Twitter)

"Nottingham City Council has cancelled a booking to use a space at Aspley Library for a talk by author Julie Bindel today (Saturday 25 June). This is due to the speaker’s views on trans gender rights being at odds with aspects of the council’s Equality, Diversity and Inclusion Strategy.
Nottingham City Council Deputy Leader Cllr Adele Williams and Portfolio Holder for Neighbourhoods, Safety & Inclusion Cllr Neghat Khan said:
“This was a private booking at Aspley Library by the ‘Nottingham Women for Change’ group and all ticket sales and marketing of the event had been undertaken independently with no input from the council.
“While it was known that the event was going to be from a feminist perspective, no information around the speaker’s views on transgender rights was brought to the Library Service’s attention.
“Once we became aware of this, we took the decision to cancel the booking. Nottingham is an inclusive city and as a council we support our LGBT community and have committed to supporting trans rights as human rights through Stonewall. We did not want the use of one of our library buildings for this event, taking place during Pride month, to be seen as implicit support for views held by the speaker which fly in the face of our position on transgender rights.”

Puffincino · 25/06/2022 10:26

So the council is worried that it might be seen to "implicit support" of a speaker who campaigns on male violence against women.

Puffincino · 25/06/2022 10:27

Not sure what level of purity test is required to go to the library these days?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/06/2022 10:30

This happened to WPUK in Leeds in 2018, didn't it? I think they had to apologise.

ScreamingMeMe · 25/06/2022 10:40

So now you can't talk about a different subject if you have the wrong opinions on something else.

picklemewalnuts · 25/06/2022 10:44

This is very Nottingham.

Thelnebriati · 25/06/2022 10:47

In case anyone is in any doubt, the statement is attributed to two female Labour councillors.
Personally I think they are in breach of The Equality Act but afaik, as JB is the person directly affected only she can challenge the decision.

Ramblingnamechanger · 25/06/2022 10:47

Inclusive my arse. Any issues about free speech ? And it’s clear how Stonewall are still influencing organisations. Yes the LP is captured.

achillestoes · 25/06/2022 10:50

Is she taking legal action? Bindel is a citizen and a customer. This is a simple breach of the Equality Act 2010, very easy to put right.

Doyoumind · 25/06/2022 10:50

Are lesbians not allowed a platform during pride month then?

SmallSoupcon · 25/06/2022 10:53

This is sex discrimination. Pure and simple.