Julie Bindel & venue for MVAW talk in Nottingham

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twitter.com/bindelj/status/1540377548387131392

www.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/media/3082686/equality-diversity-and-inclusion-strategy-2020-2023.pdf

Diversity and inclusion stragegy with the missing PC of pregnancy and maternity.

You think that places should be allowed to get away with discrimination I’m guessing

Nottingham Council obviously didn't take legal advice on this cancellation. I hope it costs them dearly and look forward to supporting any crowd funder.

I think it’s not that uncommon for people to get Julie Bindel confused with Julie Burchill. I’ve come across that confusion “in real life”.

I think Julie Bindel doesn’t get that much mainstream coverage whereas Julie Burchill did used to get mainstream coverage. So when the general public hear mention of a controversial Julie, they’re probably more likely to have heard of Julie Burchill.

So you’ve got: tireless and fearless lifelong actual campaigner against male violence against women, prostitution, and pornography = doesn’t get much coverage in the male dominated and generally misogynistic mainstream media.

versus

writer/provocateur with a “takes no prisoners” writing style = media profile.

Which says something about society/ media.

If the people responsible for getting the talk on male violence against women cancelled did so because they don’t know the difference between Julie Burchill and Julie Bindel, it shows how much of this is bandwagon jumping / performance activism: no actual knowledge or research required, just get in there quick with the wrong-think cancellation.

And even if it was Julie Birchill it would still be wrong. Utter idiotic, misogynistic arseholes.

She could sue for token damages and the principle.

find a venue that agrees with your values? I would not try to run a pro-choice ralley in a Catholic church either.

Logic is not the strong point of TRAs is it?

You needn't be concerned over diverting funds from library. Suing one library will prevent lots of other libraries from being sued for discrimination, were they thinking of breaching the equality act with impunity.

Julie would actually be saving councils money in the long run.

She'd be doing them a favour. And us. Win/win really.

Is it wrong that I chuckled at "well endowed rape crisis centre"
You've got to laugh sometimes or you'd cry...

Libraries don't have to agree with my values. Or yours. That's kind of the point of them?

‘find a venue that agrees with your values? I would not try to run a pro-choice ralley in a Catholic church either.’

Catholic churches don’t generally rent out the church for all and sundry to run events in, do they? If they did rent out the church, they would (I expect) enjoy a degree of protection for their religious beliefs, so they would be justified in (for example) refusing to rent out their venue to people who didn’t share their values.

Libraries are public. They are paid for by taxation. They are accountable under the Equality Act, and are not allowed to indulge in belief discrimination.

It wasn't the library that made the decision.

And the rape crisis centre you allude to is a blight on us all. I'm miles away and still get their actions thrown at me - by people who think their actions were disgusting.

Libraries are supposed to be apolitical, neutral spaces. Paid for by everyone, open to all.

Not a mens rights supporting organisation, paid for by men, for men.

The talk was about the problem of male violence against women and girls. Are you saying that women and girls attending an event like this, hearing from a world-class expert on the subject, is against the values of Nottingham council and its library service?

Oh, so discussing MVAW is against the values of the Council and this library then?

Interesting...

You mean that the woman’s group holding a talk about reducing male violence against women should have realised that reducing male violence against women runs counter to Nottingham Council’s values, and should have avoided booking a Nottingham Council venue?

I guess female residents in Nottingham have now got a much clearer insight into the values of the individuals running the organisation which they pay their council tax to fund.

that should have been “the women’s group”, obvs.

Incapable of reading or following links? Do you require everything to be spoon fed to you or is it just on here?

find a venue that agrees with your values? I would not try to run a pro-choice ralley in a Catholic church either.

So Nottingham Libraries think men should be allowed to abuse women. Quite a value to have in the 21st Century!

So the library should be allowed to discriminate

and other organisations i assume

im not really keen on discrimination so not something I would support

find a venue that agrees with your values? I would not try to run a pro-choice ralley in a Catholic church either.

Or councils and venues could read the Equality Act, learn that there's more than 1 protected characteristic, read what the actual law says instead of the fantasy version they've paid thousands for, and understand that shouting ''trans rights'' doesn't give you the right to discriminate against others.

I didn't have a ticket but was able to go with my daughter. Daughter excited to get Julie's book signed.not a huge protest but as poetry was being read about harm to women the transactivists turned music on in one of their vehicles.
Julie was not going to mention trans ideology at all but we could hardly ignore them particularly when they started offering us suncream!
The talk was great and I've met more local women to add to the small local group I'm in. In fact we've doubled our numbers!

I then went on to a meeting in Nottingham hosted by Nordic Model Now.

This Nottingham

www.nottinghampost.com/news/scared-worried-not-surprised-shocking-6071543

The library is publicly funded and hence subject to equality legislation so (fortunately) it isn't your or the councilors personal fiefdom to grant access at their whim. They have broken the law and I hope they apologise and offer the venue at a future date. Or get sued (and lose).

Does Westminster council allowing speakers corner in Hyde Park also imply support for the views aired there? No. It implies that we are free to air our our views in public. It is not against the law to discuss women's rights. Not yet, anyway.