LGB Alliance to plan helpline with Lottery funding

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Fantastic news.

I would link to their Twitter announcement, but in usual state of play, Twitter has marked it ' may not be appropriate for people under 18'. A helpline planned for 13 to 25 year olds, planned by a panel of experts in child protection, education, helpline delivery, fundraising and psychology.

Yep - shut them down (much better to have helplines planned by IT workers who took their child to Thailand...)

As LGB Alliance state there is no dedicated national service of its kind for young LGB people in the UK.

I'm sure the Lottery Fund will be getting a lot of feedback right now, given the outpouring of hyperbole against LGB Alliance right now on Twitter.

So they may appreciate feedback from those who may see this as a positive move too:

""We really value your feedback. If you have a comment or complaint about the services that we provide, or if there's something important you think we should know, we'd love to hear it. Please email us at [email protected]"

The theory of gender identity is not synonymous with trans. Transwomen are males with gender dysphoria. Suggesting that they receive counseling for their condition and understanding that they are not women is not being anti trans any more than telling an anorexic that they aren’t obese is anti-anorexics.

Sexual orientation and gender identity are different things

They are completely different glad you've realised that, sexual orientation is based on the sex bit and is nothing to do with gender identity, the clue is in the term homosexual meaning same sex attracted and that is the ethos of LGBA which is merely upholding and standing for the rights of those who are same sex (or both sex) attracted as per the definition and the Law of the land. Unlike Stonewall, et al, who have bastardised the term to mean same gender attracted which completely undermines the whole basis of homosexuality.

Transwomen attracted to women are not lesbians they have not changed sex they are still the male sex they were born no matter what they have done to their bodies and the same apples to transmen attracted to men.

You consider that not trans friendly I consider what you are espousing and what Stonewall and every other organisation that undermines homosexuality in this way to be deeply, revoltingly and dangerously homophobic.

Exactly what @VestofAbsurdity said. If you are saying that homosexuality is ‘transphobic’, I’d say you were actually a homophobe and not worthy of being listened to. A transwoman cannot be a lesbian as a lesbian is a female homosexual. A transwoman who fancies a woman is a straight male. A transwoman who fancies men is a homosexual male. A transwoman who fancies both men and women is a bisexual male. @Starlee does that make it easier to understand?

The LGB Alliance Twitter now has a warning asking if you still want to view it.

And yet those issuing threats of rape, assault and death to women are not…. It’s almost like there’s an agenda and Twitter is run by misogynistic arseholes.

Does that differ from the state of play described in the OP?

I would link to their Twitter announcement, but in usual state of play, Twitter has marked it ' may not be appropriate for people under 18'.

tbf, I gather that a fair amount of medical education Twitter comes with similar warnings and enquiries.

Such great news for gays, lesbians and bi people. It was high time that LGBA got recognized for their excellent work

I wonder what twitter think might happen if some unsuspecting person were to stumble across it without first being warned.
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At a guess, that they may see or hear information that this political lobby would much prefer no one was exposed to.

Clue: when someone makes it clear they are very afraid of you hearing the other side of their views and arguments, it's a whopping, huge red flag.

the LGB Alliance are not trans friendly

Oh the drama.

All you can possibly mean by this is that they are not TQ+ centric, not compliant with TQ+ political beliefs and tenets, and do not believe that homosexual people should be converted to something more acceptable to TQ+ politics.

If those things are 'unfriendly' to T people then there's something very, very wrong, and it isn't with the LGBA.

A dedicated helpline for young lesbian, gay and bisexual people is sorely needed. They need to know there is nothing wrong with homosexuality and they have every right to defend same-sex attraction from those who do not respect people's boundaries.

Ages ago I posted a rant and I've saved it for those times when the blatant homophobia by gender zealots pisses me off. So here it is again.

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You know what really angers and upsets me about Stonewall and other gender zealots? The utter betrayal and undermining of the L, G and B.

The gender zealots are not content with making up their own definitions for trans, queer and the other trailing alphabets. No, they are determined to break any link with SEXuality for lesbians, gays and bisexuals. Already on the Stonewall website, it claims homosexuality is an outdated and offensive term. (Newsflash: it's not) They want to brainwash younger generations by avoiding the connection between the terms lesbian/gay with homosexuality. So now lesbian and gay no longer means same sex attraction, but same gender attraction.

Bisexuality was the last remaining one with links to SEXuality. First, the gender zealots pronounced that bisexuality is an attraction to two or more genders. But the SEX in bisexual was an awkward reminder of reality. Observe now that bisexual has morphed into bi. I've even seen some bisexual groups overrun by gender zealots who call it bi+. I mean, what the fuck does bi+ even mean?!?

This is a sinister assault on the reality of sex underpinning homosexuality and bisexuality (and by extension heterosexuality). They want to obscure and break any link or reference of human sexuality to reality. Younger generations are being g***d into thinking terms like lesbian, gay and bi are frivolous labels that are based on some nebulous feeling rather than a factual term for describing the nature of sexual orientation. It's so upsetting.

The gender zealots demand respect for their endless gender identities but refuse to respect homosexuality and bisexuality. I am biSEXual and not ashamed of my attraction to both sexes. Leave my sexuality alone you fuckers! Get your own bloody words instead of changing ours!

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Another one applauding. I'm so sick of all this.

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Then we should add in people with disabilities, non-whites, and women to the alphabet.

@Starlee "Of course there are differences, one is sexual orientation, the other is gender identity, two different things."

"Gender identity" cannot be proved to exist. It is, thus, a fantasy; like any other religion.

Perhaps Stonewall UK should come out and say that it abhors the abuse of LGB Alliance; that anyone who supports Stonewall UK should desist immediately because Stonewall does not want to be associated in any way with such abuse?

Otherwise, do we assume that Stonewall UK condones such abuse?

Starlee just to be clear - do you, personally, believe that it is possible to be born into the 'wrong' body? As in, people exist on some levels as souls and are matched with some kind of 'intended' body, and sometimes this goes wrong and they get a body that was not intended for them?

So some people have bodies that are 'incorrect' for them because they somehow don't 'match' a person's personality/soul/psyche? But generally everyone else has the correctly matched body?

Just trying to work out what you mean when you say 'born in the wrong body', because it sounds like you're advocating the idea that some children's bodies are "wrong".

I'd like to know the answer to that too.

And if you can be born in the "wrong" body then what's to stop people identifying as a different race? It is exactly the same principle and yet somehow TRAs cheer on identifying as a different sex but identifying as a different race is offensive.

Sadly my disabled DC can't identify into being able bodied.

It would also be a disaster for trans kids to be told by the LGBAlliance that they're not trans, they're just l or g. No-one seems to care about them but it happens all the time, and not only to kids but adults as well.

Ridiculous theory. Straight, lesbian and gay kids know they're straight lesbian or gay. Why's it so hard to understand that trans kids also know themselves?

That's fine and it's your choice. But one group is highly unlikely to be openly hostile to the other. LGBAlliance are openly hostile to LGBT groups.

But it's ok for LGB Alliance to sell their GC ideology to children?

There's nothing wrong with a helpline for LGB kids. There is something very wrong with a helpline for LGB kids run by an organisation that set itself up purely to challenge and deny gender identity.

Trans people know full well that many of them are also LGB so they are well aware that any trans kids could also be LGB and will be given that option.
You appear to believe in this 'grooming' nonsense that trans people want the kids to be trans. Well they know better than anyone the problems associated with being trans and any 'trendy' ideas will be gone long before the kids reach an age where they will be eligible for treatment.
And any parent doing even a basic search in what it entails for their child is not going to allow it unless it's absolutely necessary, no-one chooses all that for their kids simply to follow a fashion.

Maybe because the LGB Alliance say that trans kids don't exist, they will most likely simply grow up to be L or G. The LGBA bring trans into it wherever they can, thinking they can turn a trans child into LGB instead!
How they think they can turn gender identity in sexual orientation they've never explained, sounds like conversion therapy to me, which is why they don't want it banned.