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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

LGB Alliance to plan helpline with Lottery funding

959 replies

pombear · 10/06/2022 20:29

Fantastic news.

I would link to their Twitter announcement, but in usual state of play, Twitter has marked it ' may not be appropriate for people under 18'. A helpline planned for 13 to 25 year olds, planned by a panel of experts in child protection, education, helpline delivery, fundraising and psychology.

Yep - shut them down (much better to have helplines planned by IT workers who took their child to Thailand...)

As LGB Alliance state there is no dedicated national service of its kind for young LGB people in the UK.

I'm sure the Lottery Fund will be getting a lot of feedback right now, given the outpouring of hyperbole against LGB Alliance right now on Twitter.

So they may appreciate feedback from those who may see this as a positive move too:

""We really value your feedback. If you have a comment or complaint about the services that we provide, or if there's something important you think we should know, we'd love to hear it. Please email us at [email protected]"

LGB Alliance to plan helpline with Lottery funding
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Theeyeballsinthesky · 21/06/2022 17:43

Pigeon chess……

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 21/06/2022 17:46

Suspect I've done more in terms of activism for the LGBT community than you ever have.

You might suspect it but it would be difficult for you to validate that in a meaningful way. And, given some of the posters on this thread, my strong suspicion is that you have no idea of the depth of the inappropriateness of your comparison and self-annointment.

Hearach15 · 21/06/2022 17:47

Artichokeleaves · 21/06/2022 17:43

Just more denialism. You have nothing else.

😻🌂💗🐣

You think most gays and lesbians don't support trans inclusion?

If that isn't the case why did GC news outlet Lesbian and Gay News shut?

www.lesbianandgaynews.com/

It explicitly said it was no longer able to continue because there were far too few GC members of the LGBT community for them to pay the bills. It was targeting a tiny market

Hearach15 · 21/06/2022 17:48

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 21/06/2022 17:46

Suspect I've done more in terms of activism for the LGBT community than you ever have.

You might suspect it but it would be difficult for you to validate that in a meaningful way. And, given some of the posters on this thread, my strong suspicion is that you have no idea of the depth of the inappropriateness of your comparison and self-annointment.

God Bless all the letters in the LGBT community! Long may we all flourish! 😘

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 21/06/2022 17:57

Well, if we're allowed to assign labels to other people yours begins with 'B' and ends with 'T'. It's a five letter word, go figure

just not quite brave enough are you 😥

honestly it’s pathetic 😀

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 21/06/2022 17:59

just not quite brave enough are you

honestly it’s pathetic

And the post went anyway 😀

(just in case my post goes bye bye)

NecessaryScene · 21/06/2022 18:04

God Bless all the letters in the LGBT community! Long may we all flourish!

Last couple of responses kind of give the game away - caring about "the community" and even the "letters".

Caring far less about the actual people. Particularly the women. Far easier to talk in abstractions - clichéd ones, at that.

Same sort of problem we saw with the Catholic Church a few times, and indeed many times in history in other organisations and communities. The symbols and the structures being more important. The sort of attitude that leads to wilful blindness and cover-ups.

Hearach15 · 21/06/2022 18:11

NecessaryScene · 21/06/2022 18:04

God Bless all the letters in the LGBT community! Long may we all flourish!

Last couple of responses kind of give the game away - caring about "the community" and even the "letters".

Caring far less about the actual people. Particularly the women. Far easier to talk in abstractions - clichéd ones, at that.

Same sort of problem we saw with the Catholic Church a few times, and indeed many times in history in other organisations and communities. The symbols and the structures being more important. The sort of attitude that leads to wilful blindness and cover-ups.

Every single member of the LGBT community is an actual person 😍

Helleofabore · 21/06/2022 18:12

so we now have two supposedly tolerant, inclusive posters from the wonderfully loving community personally attacking posters for not agreeing with them.

Shocked am I, I tell you !

And still not ONE bit of evidence of about LGB Alliance.

Not one.

But some eye opening live time demonstrations on what the posters supporting extreme trans activism resort to instead of mature discussion and focusing on evidence….

same old, same old

Datun · 21/06/2022 18:13

Hearach15 · 21/06/2022 17:35

Suspect I've done more in terms of activism for the LGBT community than you ever have.

And by trans inclusion is not homophobic. It is something the vast majority of gays and lesbians agree on! 😍😍😍

Haha!!

Have you heard that, everyone? The vast majority of lesbians and gay men don't believe in homosexuality 🤣🤣🤣

Honestly, Hearach15, give it up. Lesbians don't do dick.

Hearach15 · 21/06/2022 18:19

Datun · 21/06/2022 18:13

Haha!!

Have you heard that, everyone? The vast majority of lesbians and gay men don't believe in homosexuality 🤣🤣🤣

Honestly, Hearach15, give it up. Lesbians don't do dick.

Dating a trans person doesn't mean you stop being gay 😍

NecessaryScene · 21/06/2022 18:22

The vast majority of lesbians and gay men don't believe in homosexuality

Well, once you've redefined "lesbians" and "gay men" to include heterosexuals and bisexuals, then clearly that's quite possible.

Having likewise redefined "vegetarians", as I have, you may be surprised to know that the vast majority of vegetarians agree on including meat!

This is 2022 - get with the times!

Datun · 21/06/2022 18:22

Hearach15 · 21/06/2022 18:19

Dating a trans person doesn't mean you stop being gay 😍

😁
Says the person who can't define 'trans', 'gay', and I'm beginning to suspect even 'person' might present something of a challenge, given the number of posts you've had deleted.

dolorsit · 21/06/2022 18:23

Oh that's me convinced you've used a 😍 emoji.

Where's the fecking gin ...

DeaconBoo · 21/06/2022 18:23

Dating a trans person doesn't mean you stop being gay

Oh - did you think that's what we were claiming? That whether someone is trans or not affects their sex or the sex of the people they are attracted to? Oh dear, you've gotten it quite wrong!

NecessaryScene · 21/06/2022 18:25

I'm sure all the lurkers are now fully convinced that there's no need for LGB Alliance and its helpline to exist at all. Some very persuasive opponents here.

(Maybe keep going a bit more to make sure they fully understand?)

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 21/06/2022 18:26

The evidence was overwhelming I’m afraid necessary

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 21/06/2022 18:26

No my mistake

i meant underwhelming

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 21/06/2022 18:27

No ive done it again

i meant non existent

Helleofabore · 21/06/2022 18:27

Now… wouldn’t it be rather horrific for someone whose sexual orientation is not really being redefined because of the nature of that sexual orientation to be enthusiastically supporting the forceable redefining of other people’s sexual orientation?

I wonder if some posters think about that… at all…

Helleofabore · 21/06/2022 18:29

By the way, I am not negating that that sexual orientation hasn’t experienced discrimination and oppression.

But in this instance ..

Datun · 21/06/2022 18:40

I'm sure all the lurkers are now fully convinced that there's no need for LGB Alliance and its helpline to exist at all. Some very persuasive opponents here.

Oh yes. I'm equally sure hearach is verrr busy on datalounge convincing all those gay men why they should be interested in women with vaginas. Sorry, men with vaginas.

lol.

Hearach15 · 21/06/2022 20:14

Datun · 21/06/2022 18:22

😁
Says the person who can't define 'trans', 'gay', and I'm beginning to suspect even 'person' might present something of a challenge, given the number of posts you've had deleted.

Gay = man who likes men

Or

Woman who likes women (commonly known as a lesbian) 😀

Hearach15 · 21/06/2022 20:16

DeaconBoo · 21/06/2022 18:23

Dating a trans person doesn't mean you stop being gay

Oh - did you think that's what we were claiming? That whether someone is trans or not affects their sex or the sex of the people they are attracted to? Oh dear, you've gotten it quite wrong!

Quite a lot of people here seem to believe that a woman cannot be a lesbian if she dates a trans woman. Or a gay man isn't a gay man if he dates a trans man.

This is not the case. No one trades in their gay card by dating a trans person.

Hearach15 · 21/06/2022 20:19

Datun · 21/06/2022 18:40

I'm sure all the lurkers are now fully convinced that there's no need for LGB Alliance and its helpline to exist at all. Some very persuasive opponents here.

Oh yes. I'm equally sure hearach is verrr busy on datalounge convincing all those gay men why they should be interested in women with vaginas. Sorry, men with vaginas.

lol.

I don't know much about celebrities but I did a quick Google of "hot trans man" and I would imagine that a large number of gay men would be very interested in this trans man whether or not he has a vagina.

www.outsports.com/2018/9/27/17909094/ajay-holbrook-transgender-bodybuilding