Amber Heard&Johnny Depp trial

[Miscfeminista]

I wanted to hear more thoughts from women who actually don't accuse Amber for being"a faker". I don't want to tip toe around it or argue with people over same thing over and over while they pretend they are unbiased when in fact they just support Depp.

A lot has already been said and I know you need to have diverse opinions for better conversation etc but on the other thread I am, I'm so tired of people victim blaming and chewing over stuff with little substance so I wanted to make a separate one where we can follow the rest of the trial and outcome with our comments and observations(without constantly arguing about feminist basics).

My last thought was that AH witnesses have been consistent so far and have been wondering if they pulled away from her because they didn't want the drama surrounding it(instead of actually finding her guilty, like Depp fans are suggesting).

I'm following it over Sky over ones with commentary(every day around 1-2 afternoon UK time, 9 in the morning US time I believe..trial ends next week, think someone said 27th)

All observations welcome. What stood out to you so far?

If Amber wins, will you think Depp deserves a similar humiliation for being so wicked and cruel to destroy her reputation?

That's a really difficult question. I'd respect the views of the jury. But I don't think it necessarily proves she lied about the whole thing.

I think the Depp team case actually made that worse by saying "if you don't believe her about one thing, you can't believe any of it". If the jury go with that logic he could win but still have abused her.

I think she might have exaggerated some of it but I also think he abused her. So we will see.

Jesus christ. Leo is trying really hard here given that your narrative as an OP is post your opinion, refuse to engage with anyone with a differnet one, then copy and paste the same stuff.

The root of the case is not misogyny.

Being a woman does not earn you the rights to behave how you want.

Thankfully, there's few of you and even if she wins on a technicality she is finished and Johnny will be OK. Sadly though, people like you will now point out that's the misogyny at play when actually it isn't - it's because she's a liar.

No, because she damaged his reputation.

He had every right to defend himself.

Amber's pals have been trying to release Johnny's movements - her pal was kicked out of the trial early on for her behaviour.

JOhnny is not responsible for the leaking of her address.

"she hasn't murdered anyone", no, and neither has Johnny, yet he's had every inch of life, his mother, his children, his abuse played out.

If she is lying about being raped with a broken bottle she deserves everything she gets.

Agree with you there. It's not black and white.

I mean if she wins her counterclaim against him, saying that her getting the restraining order was a hoax and she lied.

I’m watching ‘Amber Heard caught on tape verbally abusing Johnny Depp’ on You tube.
A pissed up argument if ever I heard one.

People are absolutely vile to one another when they have lost control. You only have to watch people shouting rubbish at one another after too much to drink on nights out.

They are drinking too much, doing too many drugs and are in the same gutter as anyone else in that situation. The fact that they have money doesn’t change anything.

She’s dealing with an alcoholic/drug addict.
Enough to send anyone crazy.
Absolute nightmare.
His lawyer says she’s haranguing him. She sounds desperate to me.

If you tell the truth you don't need a good memory

Anyone else find people insisting her innocence despite her own recordings (!! the fuck), witness testimonies and her own words on the stand to be quite triggering? It also happened with Jodi Arias but on a much less scale, without all the woke knobs joining in that you get nowadays 🥴

That’s why I said in my previous post
They are drinking too much, doing too many drugs and are in the same gutter as anyone else in that situation.The fact that they have money doesn’t change anything.

Not as triggering as watching that video of rage Johnny Depp smashing stuff or listening to audios of him calling her a cunt or telling her she's irrelevant TBH.

I think "triggering" is quite an over used phrase but Angry Johnny makes me scared

Drinking and using drugs is not the same as being addicted to either. He's clearly got addiction issues, given how much he was paying Dr Kipper to detox
Her using alcohol and drugs recreationally is not relevant

To be honest, after putting up with her awful abuse, and for as long as he had, and all the rest with those Manson Family-esque squatters in his penthouses, if it had been me she would have in an ambulance. I'm not as nice to a fault like Johnny is. I can only take so much, like the majority of people.

*she would have left...

And ah yes I forgot sorry 😳 Only woke folx van be triggered.

It's also a terrible way to analyse a particular case of domestic abuse as it leads to an assumption of guilt or innocence based on political ideology and confirmation bias not on the actual evidence before us.
Well. I don't agree. I think Amber Heard is disbelieved and vilified more because she's a woman. Whenever a famous man is accused of rape there is a lot of explanations as to why the victim would make it up, usually relating to gold digging.
Victims are shamed (by men and women) and doubted on the basis of nothing much.
This trial demonstrates that wrote large, with TikToks that she "laughs like a narcissist", people saying she is lying for repeating a rumour etc.
Unlike trials of men, I don't hear any "innocent until proven guilty, false allegations ruin lives" being talked about regarding her.

The double standards are breath taking and I cannot think of a rational explanation of that. For me, it can only be rooted in misogyny, which is in itself rooted in the oppression of women.

What is the nature of you being triggered by her on the stand? What is it giving you flashbacks to?

I beg your pardon? Don't think you can attempt to ask random people online (or off for that matter) for information that's fuck all to do with you 🤣🥴

…I would happily close this thread but have no idea how to. I suppose when it reaches 1000 comments?