Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 7

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The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

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The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

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Abbreviations:

AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Judy Khan.

They'll change the name at the break.

This is Judy Khan there is an error which means she is speaking with the name of the previous witness

Witness is:

Judy Khan QC from Garden Court Chambers
https://www.gardencourtchambers.co.uk/barristers/judy-khan-qc/sao
"Judy Khan QC has experience of criminal defence work across a wide spectrum of criminal cases. She has been instructed as leading counsel in cases involving allegations of murder, attempted murder, kidnap, fraud, money laundering and large-scale importation/supply of drugs.
She also has extensive experience of cases involving sexual allegations, including historical sexual abuse. Judy finds representing young and vulnerable defendants particularly rewarding.
She spent two years representing a number of families at the Hillsborough Inquests; she led a team of barristers who dealt with the medical and pathology evidence. She has also defended, both as leading and junior counsel, in cases involving allegations of baby-shaking.
Judy won Crime Silk of the Year at the Chambers Bar Awards 2019.
Judy is a criminal silk and her practice crosses a spectrum of serious crime. She is predominantly briefed in murder cases, often involving gang-related killings committed by young defendants. She also specialises in cases involving serious sexual allegations."

It's Judy Khan for GCC Motorina.

Perfect, thank you both. My support dogs are howling in the background, so it's just as well!

Seems to be distancing herself from it. She twice made the point that her tenure as HoC was over, or almost over.

I think Kirrin Medcalf is a he/they but I do wonder how many commentators realise this but if you identify into a group with privilege then I guess you can't complain when journalists attribute that privilege to you as presumably that's what you wanted.

JK is crying...

well that was unexpected!

Told you she was nervous. For those not watching she is already crying.

I thought she was holding together remarkably well until then.

The poor woman. That’s really sad.

That is sad.

Her sister died unexpectedly at 58 and she made the statement the day before the funeral so she might have made mistakes and doesn't have a full memory of the material at the time she signed her previous statement.

Grief was clouding her judgement, she says.

Mitigating circumstances, JK Sister died at the time of writing her statement.

Thanks @IdisagreeMrHochhauser . I think that’s what I was wondering. It’s 1 thing to be part of the most disadvantaged group ever, quite another to be middle class white mail, All a bit Terry and June.

(As an aside. This film will really have everything)

Oh okay, it's not about her suddenly realising how duplicitous the behaviour was, it's about a personal matter.

She’s sounded quite resigned to me since she started.
we’ll see how this goes.

felt really sorry for her re: her sister, that’s awful

Oh bless her.

Oh dear, that's sad.

She has stated she isn't making excuses. It is a terrible thing to have happened to her, but BC is right that it was a very serious allegation about AB.

It is, Louise. We could all find ourselves in a similar predicament.

Of course it doesn’t excuse any behaviour towards AB that breaches the EA.