Times: Girl ‘driven out of school for questioning trans ideology’

[ResisterRex]

This seems to be a clear failure on the part of all adults involved, if what's reported here is accurate:

Girl ‘driven out of school for questioning trans ideology’

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/50aac934-d539-11ec-8585-951ab3afb4d2?shareToken=d55c6d8482ff6dde48eb9c33de693f54

If it's the school I think it is, it's a high achieving one and the competition for places is fierce. Parents won't want to risk their daughters' places after all the effort to get them in. They'll see Stonewall as just a small part of the whole.

Just look at how many parents willingly tutor their children for schools where intense pressure and related eating disorders are known to be a problem

The original article posted on Transgender Trend on 13 May, which I have just seen for the first time, states:

"One such event occurred a few weeks ago at the girls secondary school where I teach. This happened after an ‘educational’ visit to a 6th form PSHE session of a member of the House of Lords."

It is a reasonable assumption that Joanna Williams took that from the article.

My 17 yo DD has GC views. Although they don't talk openly about it, she knows some of her friends do too. The zealots take all the space, my DD thinks they are from families where there is less interest in politics and the world around them, from socially conservative families, they tend to be conformists, some of their parents politely shunned my female birth partner and I at antenatal classes (not because they were homophobic but they felt awkward).

Must be horrendous for this girl at her age to have it all debated in public, and for a lot of adults (who should know better) to essentially gaslight her. What message does that send out about society?

Another article in the Times today about how schools are bowing to pressure from rabid teens to affirm gender identity

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/teacher-reveals-how-schools-are-struggling-with-trans-rights-7068kn350

Gosh, I should think the school are desperate for this story to disappear from the papers. I wonder how long it will run for?

Clymene's link didn't work for me: Page Not Found.
There is a link posted by SpringCalling at 20 59 yesterday on the dedicated thread: I hope it works here
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4554037-sunday-times-gender-ideology-in-schools-perspective-from-a-teacher

If tge story is made up, there seems to be a lot of people coming forward to confirm it happened:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10841217/Baroness-trans-free-speech-row-pupil-DEFENDS-students-right-disagree-her.html

Gosh, yes, this is an elaborate creation for a story that didn't happen.

What next for Owen Jones? Slither away quietly or have the racist mum on his YouTube channel.

It's like tgat old philosophical argument bout the tree in the forest isn't it.

If a school girl is bullied for questioning trans ideology and Owen Jones isn't around to see it, did it really happen?

Sorry!

Try this: www.thetimes.co.uk/article/teacher-reveals-how-schools-are-struggling-with-trans-rights-7068kn350

Although the article can also be found without a share token in the usual place.

Any comment from LOJ now the Baroness has confirmed the case is not fictional? Or indeed the Guardian to confirm why they continually ignore his online bullying?

He's too busy saying that the 'anti trans' movement has become radicalised because some ignorant cretin used a homophobic slur, not a transphobic slur, against him. Nobody should be abusing him because of his sexuality, that is unacceptable behaviour but he is now equating homophobia to people saying that sex matters.

Despite the fact that many LGB people are gender crictical.

Oh, everybody's bloody 'gender critical' apart from a tiny minority of extremists.

How many people actually, genuinely believe that you can change sex, that there are more than two sexes, that anyone is ever 'born in the wrong body'? I mean, really really?

Reviving this thread because Julie Bindel has interviewed the girl at length. It sounds even worse now, hearing that she had been hospitalised for an eating disorder and the school (staff and pupils) knew all about that. t.co/LdcAE5r98O

All the best to 'Kate', she seems amazing. I hope things go well for her when she starts university.

What happened to LOJ's expose? Didnot all go quiet?

*Did it all go quiet

Isn't JB bringing this up again just going to reignite interest in tracking down the other pupils to hear their side of the story?

Surely for the expelled pupil it was best to let the story fade away?

I guess that's up to the girl really, isn't it. I don't think she was expelled, she was bullied out.

Presumably the girl wanted to be interviewed. I'm not sure bucking under to the bullies would be the best thing for her. She may find that having her side publicised returns a bit of control to her.

Well presumably if the girl (who is technically an adult at 19) wanted it to 'fade away' she wouldn't have agreed to talk to Julie Bindel.

Perhaps it makes her feel better to have this exposed as the bullying it so clearly was rather than continuing to feel like she's mad and being gaslighted into believing she was in the wrong.

Good for her for standing up for herself and not just rolling over and accepting the abuse she received.

Yes, she wasn't expelled.

She had to leave because she couldn't be kept safe in the school any more due to the baying mob screaming 'bigot' with no evidence of bigotry.

She was being kept in the library away from the other pupils for her own safety IIRC. Presumably at some point her parents decided that paying for her not to receive an education by an institution segregating her in this way wasn't exactly value for money.