Times: Girl ‘driven out of school for questioning trans ideology’

[ResisterRex]

This seems to be a clear failure on the part of all adults involved, if what's reported here is accurate:

Girl ‘driven out of school for questioning trans ideology’

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/50aac934-d539-11ec-8585-951ab3afb4d2?shareToken=d55c6d8482ff6dde48eb9c33de693f54

If you read the article, it was the girl who contacted JB:
'Kate, the pupil in question (whose name we have changed), contacted me on social media. She had seen my condemnation of Jones’s attempts to, in my view, discredit the story and wanted to tell it in her own words.'

She is very brave and I applaud her. I don't think she should be expected to keep quiet for her own sake, when she wants to call out the appalling treatment she's received both at school and online.

What happened to LOJ's expose? Didnot all go quiet?

If you look at the Helen Joyce thread, he's busy defending his trans ally status to particularly extremist TRAs.

Oh yes, I've been enjoying that.

I'm surprised that the name of the school hasn't been leaked online with the amount of people involved, if you were a pupil at that school you'd know about this story and it would be easy to put 2+2 together.

Conceivably the reaction of most to this story, plus a bit of distance from school gained during study leave, plus the focussing of minds as A levels loom, has made at least some of the young women concerned realise that they have behaved appallingly badly. I don't know what the teachers' excuse is.

Maybe the people involved are ashamed of themselves and the others are decent people who wouldn't do that?

Maybe, but someone one stepped removed - you know what the internet is like, nothing is kept secret for long.

The young woman seems intelligent, mature and courageous. I'm sure she'll go far.

As for her peers and, worse, her teachers, words fail me.

Having read to the end of JB's piece, it's notable that Kate is drawing entirely logical and concerning parallels with the anorexia she experienced and transideology. She clearly has a lot of compassion and empathy for those with gender dysphoria.

It is disturbing - the school failed to safeguard her terribly - this should be raised as it was an abject failure she self-harmed at school directly as a result of the bullying that was allowed - but they are also failing to safeguard children by allowing them to parrot mantras rather than critically explore what gender ideology might mean for their health and their lives.

Dreadful. Even if you state facts you can get in trouble these days - eg English law definition of "rape" ( a technical term in the legislation) some say it is wrong to quote it - yet it is fact ( see below)

"Rape is a statutory offence in England and Wales. The offence is created by section 1[1] of the Sexual Offences Act 2003:

(1) A person (A) commits an offence if—

(a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis,

(b) B does not consent to the penetration, and

(c) A does not reasonably believe that B consents.

(2) Whether a belief is reasonable is to be determined having regard to all the circumstances, including any steps A has taken to ascertain whether B consents.

(3) Sections 75 and 76 apply to an offence under this section.

(4) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable, on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for life.

This definition notably has a narrower definition with other kinds of rape being covered by offences with other names. For example, if a victim is forcefully penetrated with an object other than a penis, this is classed as "Assault by Penetration" (section 2),[2] and if the victim is made to penetrate another, the act can be prosecuted as "Causing a person to engage in sexual activity without consent" (section 4).

So can only commit rate with a penis. Some people may not like that but it is so. Similarly recently I had to stop an editor trying to force me to change the word Chairman when I was describing the Companies Act. She might well think the term is very offensive but it is the law. I am not going to lie about a word used in an act because we are supposed to live in some kind of la la land where we have to pretending blue is red. I was very polite back and said she might want to lobby to change the law but we had to describe it as it stands.

Oh please can we have a link to this, it sounds fun.

“I couldn’t help but hear the anorexic mentality reverberate in conversations of gender dysphoria,” she says. “Both aspire to reach an idealised, elusive form of the self. Both are driven by a desire to control one’s reality.”

'Kate'. I would like to talk directly to you, although I don't know if you are likely to read this:

I can hear in your reported words that you are thoughtful, sensitive and insightful. I'm so sorry for the things you've been through. Sometimes we are tempered by the difficult experiences of our youth - I hope you know that the pains many people go through can later become a source of strength. Please look after yourself. Bon courage.

Good Bones
By Maggie Smith

Life is short, though I keep this from my children.
Life is short, and I’ve shortened mine
in a thousand delicious, ill-advised ways,
a thousand deliciously ill-advised ways
I’ll keep from my children. The world is at least
fifty percent terrible, and that’s a conservative
estimate, though I keep this from my children.
For every bird there is a stone thrown at a bird.
For every loved child, a child broken, bagged,
sunk in a lake. Life is short and the world
is at least half terrible, and for every kind
stranger, there is one who would break you,
though I keep this from my children. I am trying
to sell them the world. Any decent realtor,
walking you through a real shithole, chirps on
about good bones: This place could be beautiful,
right? You could make this place beautiful.

Lovely post MagnoliaTaint

I hope that Kate is aware of how many women (and men) support her. School enabled bullying like this and inviting intolerant visitors to lecture rather than debate is completely unacceptable.
Is it too much to hope that the adults who so spectacularly let Kate down have some insights into their shameful, unprofessional behaviour?

She wasn't expelled.

It's important to say that. She was bullied out.

She sounds fantastic & if she wants to come to study in my department, I'd be very pleased - what a thoughtful mature young woman.

I'm pretty sure we won't hear from Owen again about this. The same as we won't hear about the fact that the young woman who had been so 'radicalised' and was reported to her employer, had actually been hacked. It's onto the next victim for him.

I hope Joanne shares Julie's article.

I also hope to Christ that this utter bullshit is finished with by the time mine go to secondary school.

Bullies and mobs have been with us forever and will continue to exercise whatever power they can leverage. We just continue to resist. And support others who do the same.