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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Standing for Women Manchester event Sun 15 May

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Mollyollydolly · 15/05/2022 13:58

Currently streaming live on You Tube. Fantastic turnout many inspiring women speaking. Watch it if you can .. on Kellie Jay's YouTube channel.

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Mollyollydolly · 15/05/2022 22:17

The art installation woman has deleted her tweet. Too many women putting her right.

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IdiditOK · 15/05/2022 22:21

What had she said ?

BoreOfWhabylon · 15/05/2022 22:23

The Mail describes them as "masked trans thugs". Several times Smile

Birdsweepsin · 15/05/2022 22:27

BoreOfWhabylon · 15/05/2022 22:23

The Mail describes them as "masked trans thugs". Several times Smile

I am enjoying this caption: "It was unclear why the activists dressed up in balaclavas"

ScreamingMeMe · 15/05/2022 22:34

IdiditOK · 15/05/2022 22:21

What had she said ?

That she was upset the women stood in front of his "inclusive" art installation about domestic violence. She made it sound like they had done it deliberately.

ScreamingMeMe · 15/05/2022 22:35

ScreamingMeMe · 15/05/2022 22:34

That she was upset the women stood in front of his "inclusive" art installation about domestic violence. She made it sound like they had done it deliberately.

Just realised that Tarrotcake has posted a screenshot above.

PrelateChuckles · 15/05/2022 22:38

IdiditOK · 15/05/2022 22:21

What had she said ?

Allie Crewe said "Today TERFs used my work in St. Peter's Square Manchester to hold a large anti trans demonstration. They made sure a transwoman was in focus. I am greatly saddened that my work was reappropriated like this and I do not share their views. I promote all human rights."

Note she doesn't use a space in 'trans woman' and seems to think people can tell someone's gender from appearance, so I assume she's not that great of a trans ally.

StormyWaterCloud · 15/05/2022 22:41

Link to the live stream m.youtube.com/watch?v=0nl6u66vRss

IdiditOK · 15/05/2022 23:00

FFS we only moved because the police refused to move the Ninja boys, and said we would be arrested if we moved in on the statue.

AND it wasn't an anti-trans demo - but obviously people on here know that

littlbrowndog · 15/05/2022 23:02

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littlbrowndog · 15/05/2022 23:04

Allie Crewe frightened of being cancelled. Don’t be afraid Allie. Don’t matter what you say. They will still cancel you even if you grovel.

stand up lady stand up for women

FemaleAndLearning · 15/05/2022 23:12

I was there today. It was a really positive event with great speakers. There was a rich diversity of speeches compared to the usual chanted mantras from the transactivists.

Trans Rise up Manchester are boasting that they didn't let the hateful "GCs"
have the Pankhurst Statue without seeing the irony in that!
The tram lines were quite symbolic with the trans activists shouting they were on the right side of history. The police made a line and were facing them and the tram lines segregated them from us. This was after the speeches started and they moved opposite us. Their speaker was on so loud it was vibrating must have been hard on the ears next to it. They had a good play list though! I spoke to lots of passerbys and gave them a leaflet. When they looked over at the protesters trying to stop women speak they were aghast.
I'm so pleased I was able to go and show my support by listening to the amazing brave women and a couple of penis havers! Women were in good spirits and had a laugh. The police did a mostly good job though I have seen one woman who was manhandled at the start by one of the pound shop ninjas. (Tweeted by JK Rowling).

The trans activists were mostly young I would say, below 25. The women listening to speeches were of all ages. Great day for women's rights.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/05/2022 23:13

From what I gather, she's, like, the boss level transphobe' She needs that on a t-shirt!!

Grin she really does!

Rightsraptor · 15/05/2022 23:17

There's a bloke holding up a banner saying 'Radical Trans Liberation Now'. Anyone know what that means?🤔

IdiditOK · 15/05/2022 23:28

Fuck knows - and he probably doesn't even know.

SpindleInTheWind · 16/05/2022 00:02

Rightsraptor · 15/05/2022 23:17

There's a bloke holding up a banner saying 'Radical Trans Liberation Now'. Anyone know what that means?🤔

Being able to tell his mum off?

dropthevipers · 16/05/2022 00:10

Rightsraptor · 15/05/2022 23:17

There's a bloke holding up a banner saying 'Radical Trans Liberation Now'. Anyone know what that means?🤔

I was wondering about that. Cannot now recall what/who said it, but wasn't there a completely fucking bonkers "manifesto" (sic) a while back calling for free everything (surgery, hormones, blockers, housing, money) for anyone trans. Oh, and they should all be released from prison (never mind being sent there) coz, er, prison is nasty. Utterly batshit.

RhannionKPSS · 16/05/2022 00:13

dropthevipers · 16/05/2022 00:10

I was wondering about that. Cannot now recall what/who said it, but wasn't there a completely fucking bonkers "manifesto" (sic) a while back calling for free everything (surgery, hormones, blockers, housing, money) for anyone trans. Oh, and they should all be released from prison (never mind being sent there) coz, er, prison is nasty. Utterly batshit.

I remember that list of demands, I think it was read out at their wee demo outside parliament in London where there were men dressed as babies and toddlers...

Waitwhat23 · 16/05/2022 00:15

This batshit list?

edinburghath.tumblr.com/post/163521055802/trans-health-manifesto

dropthevipers · 16/05/2022 00:20

Waitwhat23 · 16/05/2022 00:15

That's it. Even more bonkers than I remember. What the hell is the end of capitalist and colonialist medicine when it's at home? The whole screed reads like it has been got out by a friend.

Waitwhat23 · 16/05/2022 00:29

It's so, so batshit that you asssume that it's some sort of tongue in cheek joke but nope, it appears to be entirely genuine.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/05/2022 00:35

How are these things publicised?

She will publicise them on her YouTube and via the SFW mailing list. I get mails and I'm not a paying member. The Hyde Park ones are most months, occasionally they are elsewhere.

nepeta · 16/05/2022 00:36

Waitwhat23 · 16/05/2022 00:29

It's so, so batshit that you asssume that it's some sort of tongue in cheek joke but nope, it appears to be entirely genuine.

Wow. "We demand utopia but only for us." Food shall fall like manna from the heavens, it seems.

Written by some very very young people?

dooziesent · 16/05/2022 02:11

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Rightsraptor · 16/05/2022 04:59

I remember that batshit list! It's from 2017, I can't see anything more recent than that year on the website so hopefully they've disappeared.