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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

MP comes out as transgender

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poshme · 30/03/2022 09:25

A male Tory MP has released a statement on Twitter that they are transgender, and also that a couple of years ago they were raped.
It's a brave statement.

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MorrisZapp · 30/03/2022 10:39

Sorry to hear there are photographs of him wanting to be trans. I expect that in the pictures he's wearing jeans, trainers and a t-shirt, like most women his age do.

Ilostit · 30/03/2022 10:39

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Swayingpalmtrees · 30/03/2022 10:40

He needs to resign, now.

Branleuse · 30/03/2022 10:42

Heck. So pleased that the underrepresentation of women in politics is being addressed by any means necessary

Abhannmor · 30/03/2022 10:42

Shades of another Welsh MP , Davies ? He was mugged while out cruising iirc. Nothing wrong with cruising but the chaotic lifestyle is reminiscent. And he was a minister.

nauticant · 30/03/2022 10:43

There's a Conservative MP, Rachel Maclean, on Woman's Hour being asked about this in the light of flippant comments by Boris Johnson at a dinner last night. We got lots of br*e and st*ning and talk about the huge changes involved in a transition. I wonder where Wallis will sit on the "it's an inner identity thing" to Jan Morris spectrum?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/03/2022 10:44

Majority of just over a thousand at 2019 election when he was first elected. Bridgend was previously a Labour seat for many years.

DoobryWhatsit · 30/03/2022 10:44

I'm always in support of anyone making a public statement and denying the gutter press their scoop. It's almost unheard of for males to admit to having been raped, and I really hope Jamie gets all the help possible.

I fail to see how gender identity has anything to do with running sleazy websites, or hit and run crimes. I'm very much in the GC camp, but this already feels like a media campaign to discredit transpeople as a whole. (fwiw I absolutely think sex matters more than "gender", but I also believe that everyone should be allowed to live by and large however they want, with the exception of accessing opposite-sex spaces. So I don't like the instant connection between "here's a transwomen and look how awful they are").

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Signalbox · 30/03/2022 10:46

and talk about the huge changes involved in a transition

Does anyone believe this any more?

tabbycatstripy · 30/03/2022 10:46

I can’t see him being a great ambassador for trans people, really.

Enough4me · 30/03/2022 10:47

A pimp website director, dubious business man, hit-and-run perpetrator and highly stressed after rape. If a woman said these things she would be blamed for it all. He'll receive praise as he's waving the TW golden ticket.

Thewindwhispers · 30/03/2022 10:47

@Clymene

Wow, that's an excellent example of darvo in action isn't it? And exploitative lying disgraced MP who ran away from the scene of an accident is now positioning himself as a victim?

How stunning and brave Hmm

This. I wonder whether he’d have declared himself trans, and a rape victim, if his career was going better. I know that sounds horrible. But MPs are supposed to be leaders, people we look up to and trust to make laws. This guy ran a sugar daddy website 🤢 that’s apparently had a LOT of complaints, was dishonest about it, and fled the scene of a hit and run that apparently he caused.

And now he wants to make himself unsackable by declaring he’s trans.

(Reminds me a little of when Philip Scofield announced he was gay just in time to change the newspaper stories from “Philip is a bully at work” to “isn’t Philip brave”.)

🙄

DoobryWhatsit · 30/03/2022 10:47

@Ilostit

Well he’s going to be a stunner isn’t he when he thinks he’s suddenly a woman cos he gets to wear a dress.
This is so unnecessary. I'm a woman (the "original cunty kind") and I am very much not a stunner. A stunning drag queen is not more of a woman than me. Beauty, or lack thereof, shouldn't be part of the argument, on either side.
bellinisurge · 30/03/2022 10:47

It's very brave to reveal that they've been raped. The damage men do if you don't conform and comply. It reads like they have a lot of messed up stuff going on in their life and I hope they are getting support and care.

Theunamedcat · 30/03/2022 10:49

Perhaps they need to resign to concentrate fully on transition I cannot see someone going through life changes being able to focus on there job

Ameanstreakamilewide · 30/03/2022 10:49

@Theunamedcat

Hmmm
Indeed. The word Teflon springs to mind.
Beowulfa · 30/03/2022 10:50

@DoobryWhatsit

I'm always in support of anyone making a public statement and denying the gutter press their scoop. It's almost unheard of for males to admit to having been raped, and I really hope Jamie gets all the help possible.

I fail to see how gender identity has anything to do with running sleazy websites, or hit and run crimes. I'm very much in the GC camp, but this already feels like a media campaign to discredit transpeople as a whole. (fwiw I absolutely think sex matters more than "gender", but I also believe that everyone should be allowed to live by and large however they want, with the exception of accessing opposite-sex spaces. So I don't like the instant connection between "here's a transwomen and look how awful they are").

No, this is "here's a Tory MP and look how awful they are".

Declaring being trans is a side issue to their proven behaviour.

Swayingpalmtrees · 30/03/2022 10:50

I wonder what Keir thinks of the timing of this.....

JanetPluchinsky · 30/03/2022 10:51

I saw this earlier and eyerolled.

He’s banking on the Teflon trans defence.

And yes, shades of Philip Schofield (cunt) changing the narrative.

SolasAnla · 30/03/2022 10:52

Lovelyricepudding
The rape is awful

Is horrible that a sexual assault happened, particularity when the perpetrator is known and trusted.

Sadly I note unlike the blackmail attempt there appears to have been no police involvement in what I would view as a more serious criminal act.

they lied to the electorate opening themselves up to blackmail - this is a representative of parliament who makes legislation.

Why is being homosexual male, being in a homosexual relationship, or being diagnosed with gender dysphoria blackmail material?

I truly dislike how the mostly irrelevant personal and family lives of UK politicians are being dragged into politics. From the PM down to local level can everyone get back to a divide between whats politically relevant and whats just nosy gossiping. There is a sitting Royal Family in place nobody is voting for a First Family or a Noble Family leave that politic to the US.

As for lies to the electorate, I dont see how any of the above would change a voters mind if the voter is voting on the candidates position on policy (more relied on for newer MPs) and proven track records (how they pratice what they speeched)

And the way they talk about the car crash sounds like they crashed it into another car - a hit and run but they had PTSD so not responsible for their actions even though they are fine to be voting in parliament?

Running into a stationary object leads to a conclusion of drink drugs or reckless speed on an unfamiliar road. Voters should be more concerned about that than PTSD while debating or voting.

Local voters may ask for a policy statement on intentions around changes to the GRA or EA etc and make direct representations. But until the next election the voters have no power to make political choices.

So it underlines why voters should be asking their candidate to make clear what their poilcy is to drill down to their special interest vote decider (eg how to define man and woman)

MapleMay11 · 30/03/2022 10:53

@Swayingpalmtrees

I wonder what Keir thinks of the timing of this.....
I think Starmer has much bigger things to worry about, such as saving his own career.
Lockedoorsopen · 30/03/2022 10:54

@Crimesean

Poor man - being raped is horrific Sad

It's good news that he feels like he can live authentically.

*It's good news that he feels like he can live authentically"

What does that even mean? Living authentically?

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 30/03/2022 10:55

I trust that the MP receives appropriate support for the rape and PTSD.

Theluggage15 · 30/03/2022 10:55

Oh yeah, him. A very busy little bee, who apparently always needs the understanding of the public whatever he does. Sleazy website, hit and run, there he is wringing his hands.