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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

MP comes out as transgender

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poshme · 30/03/2022 09:25

A male Tory MP has released a statement on Twitter that they are transgender, and also that a couple of years ago they were raped.
It's a brave statement.

MP comes out as transgender
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Somanysocks · 31/03/2022 16:03

Maybe he is transitioning into a person with standards, honesty and morals.

Well it's a possibility.

viques · 31/03/2022 16:10

@nauticant

Much of Mr Wallis's life seems to have a Schrödinger quality.
Oh believe me, that cat is dead. I can smell it from here.
NonnyMouse1337 · 31/03/2022 16:24

@Somanysocks

Maybe he is transitioning into a person with standards, honesty and morals.

Well it's a possibility.

Zinger! Grin
GCAcademic · 31/03/2022 16:26

[quote DontLikeCrumpets]"'Dr' Jamie Wallis was also kicked off a Tory council in 2018, wrote that COVID-19 came from space and has a PhD from a 'private' university's department where he is the only member of staff, and all its other certificates seem to have been awarded to members of his family"

twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1509200646418976770[/quote]
Wallis's PhD is from the University of Cardiff. You can find it in the university's library catalogue. That Tweet seems to be muddling up Wallis with his PhD supervisor, who is based at the University of Buckingham in a one-person department.

Wallis may be a deeply unpleasant person, but it seems clear enough that he took his PhD at Cardiff and that it was successfully examined, otherwise it would not be in their library:

orca.cardiff.ac.uk/63775/1/2014wallisjphd.pdf

DomesticatedZombie · 31/03/2022 16:33

Cardiff Uni transferred some depts to Uni of Buckingham, I think. Jamie Wallis' dad appears to have been employed there - Dr Daryl Hamilton Wallis. Not quite sure all the detail.

www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/why_did_cardiff_astrobiology_dep

WeWillLookBack · 31/03/2022 16:35

Private Eye weren't convinced ....

MP comes out as transgender
ArcheryAnnie · 31/03/2022 17:00

Am absolu

Am fascinated by Tatchell gatekeeping. Now I'm all in favour of gatekeeping but Tatchell is really going to store up (more) trouble for himself here. (Honestly, I find even his style of tweeting, quite apart from the content, absolutely aggravating.)

DontLikeCrumpets · 31/03/2022 17:02

@GCAcademic

Lineham's recent substack newsletter refers to the Private Eye article and I'm interested to know what you make of it.

According to Private Eye "Wallis claims to have been awarded a PhD by Cardiff University in ‘astrobiology’ in 2014, although his sole credited supervisor left Cardiff University in 2011 and most of the publications he cited in his thesis appear to have been written by his father."

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/beautiful-stunning-brave?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo2OTc3NzU1OSwicG9zdF9pZCI6NTEzNjI3NjcsIl8iOiJjMURYdSIsImlhdCI6MTY0ODc0MTk4MSwiZXhwIjoxNjQ4NzQ1NTgxLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItNjczMDkiLCJzdWIiOiJwb3N0LXJlYWN0aW9uIn0.b2DW7_pcWnWlLWBhysVqTISQT9L0jQqwhtlR1_AVRc4&s=r

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 31/03/2022 17:22

www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/why_did_cardiff_astrobiology_dep Freedom of Information request about the transfer from Cardiff to Buckingham, from a good few years ago now, with a specific request for information about Dr Wallis senior and associated companies. I am no expert but I don't see a smoking gun here.

SolasAnla · 31/03/2022 17:36

@BoreOfWhabylon

OK, I apologise.
Thank you for being willing for reconsidering and for apologising

DameHelena
Don't be daft. You can just google him and you get her name and the fact that there are two kids.
And asBorepoints out, he was happy to mention them himself when campaigning for office.
Cake and eat it.

I disagree neither she or the children stood for office. If someone wants to google thats their business but she is not accountable for his career choices.

Clymene · 31/03/2022 17:45

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/why_did_cardiff_astrobiology_dep Freedom of Information request about the transfer from Cardiff to Buckingham, from a good few years ago now, with a specific request for information about Dr Wallis senior and associated companies. I am no expert but I don't see a smoking gun here.
Except that the department closed in 2010 and its only staff member left which is 4 years before Wallis submitted his PhD viva.
MMBaranova · 31/03/2022 18:10

The PhD may well be genuine. The thesis is at least in a 'submitted for...' state on the Cardiff site. I note that the declarations are unsigned on page iii. Chandra Wickramasinghe used to do a double act with Fred Hoyle writing about panspermia. Yes it is a bit of a snigger of a name, but is an actual idea. There's a lot of 'stuff' in the 189 page thesis, having given it a 60 second scan. Someone put a lot of time and effort into it. Given that it is under Wallis's name on the Cardiff site, I'd give it the benefit of the doubt.

That doesn't mean that Wallis isn't a generally dodgy character.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 31/03/2022 18:13

Yes, but if he was already in the system as a part-time student Cardiff would have had to make arrangements for his supervision. They may have had an informal understanding with the ex-Prof that he would continue supervising Wallis. As @GCAcademic says, if his thesis is in the library at Cardiff, it really has to indicate that he passed the viva. This seems incredible to me knowing only the subject matter, but I am not an academic, far less a scientist, so who knows.

MMBaranova · 31/03/2022 18:15

Supervisors do leave for other posts and this can create issues (as a relative found when the top mind in the field who was supervising elsewhere left and kept in vague touch while number two was left at the University earnestly supporting in an administrative sense but not really having a grip of the material - in the end top mind was crucial in getting everything signed off).

Similarly a PhD can take ages to complete, especially if not full time. A department can close with doctoral students still plodding away for some time.

ResilienceWanker · 31/03/2022 18:35

Indeed. It's not unheard of for a candidate's supervisor to be from a different institution to the one awarding the degree...especially if they moved institutions mid- research. They would sometimes take the PhD students with them, but by no means always - especially if it's geographically some way away, and the candidate has family links to the original university town. They would usually just continue to use the lab facilities/ library etc in the original institution...as long as the uni is getting their funding (either self funding, or by a research grant or studentship) they are generally pretty flexible. There would need to be an internal examiner to ensure the viva was carried out fairly and according to the uni standards...but the fact the (decent) uni awarded the degree suggests it was sufficiently novel and well executed to be worthy of it, as judged by independent academics in the field.

Just because the supervisor and topic of the research is a bit nutty/ unconventional/ controversial doesn't mean it's dodgy or worthless or made up. It may bring his decision making skills and judgement of character into question I suppose, which isn't great in a politician (his supervisor thinking covid came from space is probably slightly out there as theories go), but isn't criminal. In any case, its a contribution to scientific understanding, and others will almost certainly disagree and criticise the findings or methods or premise. It's still an impressive thing to have done, though can't say it's something I'd have wanted to spend a big chunk of time (or possibly money...not sure what the research council funding is like in that area) doing! If self funded and part time I would think it could easily take 4 or 5 years, which would fall in the time Cardiff employed the supervisor and had the relevant doctoral centre.

Doesn't excuse his other ideas and business ventures of course, but having an eccentric interest in a slightly conspiracy-theory area of science doesn't automatically make him a bad or untruthful person.

Xenia · 31/03/2022 18:46

I am quite enjoying the labelling mess. He has said he is he and he might choose to become trans. So anyone calling him trans is not calling him what he wants and therefore committed a cardinal sin in the world of woke. he is apparently planning to become trans.

However the reality is probably that he was born with gender dysmorphia and is planning a legal and probably medical gender change.
I have nothing against him but he should not have run away after an accident and I do not recommend any MPs of any kind do random sexual hook ups. Look where it got Keith Vaz. They might be better to marry and stay faithful which seems to work better in life and be less risky.

Igneococcus · 31/03/2022 19:14

I just skimread the thesis and a lot of effort went into writing this, I have no doubt about that, but it's just all so speculative. I don't envy the visa panel. I mean even the little I read left me with enough questions for several hours if not days.

TinselAngel · 31/03/2022 19:15

They might be better to marry and stay faithful which seems to work better in life and be less risky.
Are you going to volunteer to be one of these wives that you intend to keep them on the straight and narrow? Because I think I'll pass.

IvyTwines · 31/03/2022 19:48

[quote lifeturnsonadime]Well even Peter Tatchell is disputing his trans status.

Which is very interesting. It doesn't seem he is the right kind of trans. Not to do with the sugar daddy business but his stance on refugees and tax avoidance. Oh and reading the comments on the twitter feed some people don't think Tories should be trans.

twitter.com/PeterTatchell/status/1509224306110308365[/quote]
Yes, no mention of the sugar daddy website in that list of his, which is odd because it's the thing women have been talking about the most, including in the House of Commons, and was the thing that made the headlines a couple of years ago.

Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky · 31/03/2022 19:52

DH was in wales today & said that this was discussed in the office along with LT & EB. All blokes in their 20s & 30s, all thought it was absolutely ridiculous, unfair & that LT & EB are clearly men

Abitofalark · 01/04/2022 02:01

Article in Spiked by Joanna Williams

"The beatification of Jamie Wallis
The Tory MP has become a secular saint after coming out as trans."

"A couple of hours later, Wallis clarified that he won’t be changing his pronouns and still wants to be referred to as he / him. So, Wallis is a biologically intact male, who has a man’s name, wears men’s clothes (in public at least), and goes by male pronouns. As he himself says: ‘I remain the same person I was yesterday.’ Other than having newfound heroism thrust upon him, of course."

www.spiked-online.com/2022/03/31/the-beatification-of-jamie-wallis/

mirax · 01/04/2022 06:24

@Lovelyricepudding

I see our eponymous hero is, or was until recently, married with two daughters. I hope his wife and children are OK. I wonder how long he has been betraying them with his gay hookups?
This. Clearly shady, dishonest and dangerous behaviour but he gets validated while the real victims of his behaviour get silenced or are expected to smile through their pain.
Neongoddess · 01/04/2022 06:30

I ventured onto twitter. I don't use it much so not sure if I saw a good cross section. I just put his name in the search bar and look at latest. But I was surprised that there didn't seem to be that kuchen support for him.

Quite alot of people pointing out his wife and kids have been ignored and pointing out that the rest of is behaviour isn't forgotten 'cause trans' and questioning his claim of 'want to be trans but staying he/him and not changing how I look'.

I do think there will be a big back lash from the trans community, if they suspect this is all just smoke and mirrors to justify the car crash.

lobbymp · 01/04/2022 07:18

@Neongoddess

I ventured onto twitter. I don't use it much so not sure if I saw a good cross section. I just put his name in the search bar and look at latest. But I was surprised that there didn't seem to be that kuchen support for him.

Quite alot of people pointing out his wife and kids have been ignored and pointing out that the rest of is behaviour isn't forgotten 'cause trans' and questioning his claim of 'want to be trans but staying he/him and not changing how I look'.

I do think there will be a big back lash from the trans community, if they suspect this is all just smoke and mirrors to justify the car crash.

I hope there is backlash
WeWillLookBack · 01/04/2022 08:11

While there may be a backlash from trans people - I don't think the aggressive Trans Rights Activists will. The mantra 'Acceptance without exception' has been questioned so much, and they keep their line. They will just ignore this - just as they ignore every other man who has used 'trans' for their own benefits.