Mridul Wadwha and the thought police

[IamSarah]

Great article in Spiked Online about Mridul Wadwha's latest shenanigans:

www.spiked-online.com/2022/02/01/the-thought-police-are-here/

To briefly summarise:

• Mridul was born male

• Mridul is legally male with no GRC

• Mridul is the CEO of Edinburgh Rape crisis

• Mridul claims women who want female only rape crisis services are bigoted and should 'reframe their trauma'

• The CEO of a domestic violence charity Nicola Murray stopped referring women to Mridul's rape crisis service due to Mridul's misogyny

• Mridul reported Nicola Murray to the police for committing a hate crime

• The police actually visited Nicola Murray to question her thinking

@Waitwhat23

I still don't think I've had an answer as to why Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre can offer groups for many different services users but not provide a single sex service for women who require it, using the single sex exemptions allowed to them in law.

This single, simple solution demolishes every single one of barleys arguments.

As evidenced by the response 'they don't want to'. Ner.

There is zero reason why men, however they identify, cannot be counselled by the same service as women, just not at the same time or in the same room. Neither does it require male therapists and counsellors to access women.

That means everyone gets what they need, but rape victims are not being used as validation for males. And other males who would use the service for nefarious means are thwarted.

Wait, so JK Rowling's writing apparently is transphobic and makes people 'feel unsafe' not because of what's explicitly written but because of some kind of covert associational guilt, and the same has been said of a billboard stating 'woman: adult human female' - but anyone who thinks that TRAs saying 'suck my girldick' to women they dislike are using threatening language is totally wrong? Because some Americans apparently say 'suck my dick' to each other in a jokey way?

Doesn't make sense to me.

Gregor Murray was suspended as a councillor for vile, abusive tweets to women.

www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/4244982/gregor-murray-snp-trans-councillor-quits-suspended/

Scotland such a place isn’t it ?

For such a small country

No-one who implies that I am just being uptight about descriptions of sexual violence and that the cool girls get that it's a joke has any business lecturing me about feminism

But it does offer an answer to what kind of mind can deny the right to request a female examiner to a shaking, traumatised woman on the worst day of her life when that person is also the CEO of a rape crisis centre?

The kind of mind that doesn't see why we have an issue with being instructed to perform fellatio, perhaps?

Get this, petal. I am offended, and I do not give a rusty piece of scrap what women you produce to tell me my boundaries are too high. And every time I see these imperatives to perform sexual acts issued, my resolution hardens, and I am reminded anew of the mindset that drives them. A mindset that sees men as the default human and women as the "sex class" made to service men. Holders of the mindset seek to humiliate women by reminding us that they think we're there to serve their sexual urges, every time we act as if we think we're people too.

I will never, ever consent to these males using female only spaces. Thanks for reminding me why today.

@littlbrowndog

More from Joanna below

Cherry said the febrile debate within the party over changes to the Gender Recognition Act (GRA) and allegations of transphobia directed at her had put her at risk.

She said: “I have a friendship with a trans woman dating back to the days when I first came out as a lesbian on the scene in Edinburgh in the 1980s. One of my most loyal and hard-working activists is a trans woman. I am not transphobic.

“The people who are propagating the idea that I’m transphobic are not only being unfair to me, they’re actually putting me in danger because of the level of abuse I’ve received, which included a death threat in 2019 and in the last week has included a series of very scary and frightening messages which have led to a man being arrested and charged with a serious offence. I can’t comment on that too much at the moment. I can’t tell you who the man was, but I can tell you he was a party member.”

But Joanna wrote this barley. What do you think ?

She wrote she is being put in danger

Waitwhat23
I still don't think I've had an answer as to why Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre can offer groups for many different services users but not provide a single sex service for women who require it, using the single sex exemptions allowed to them in law.

Presumably because they don't want to and as an independent organisation they can do what they like.

Dead wrong @barleybadminton, the correct answer is of course 'because their primary funder, the Scottish Government, requires them to be trans inclusive in every aspect of their service.' No men in your group, no money for your group.

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

Please point out one prominent trans activist in the UK who has issued a credible rape or death threat (as opposed to anonymous twitter trolls)

I rather doubt that violence, sexual violence and murder diminish in severity because the perpetrator isn't "prominent".

Do you think that if someone with less than 10,000 followers murders a feminist, she'll be 15% less dead?

No, the reason I asked for someone who was not anonymous is because a lot of the time people are not who they say they are online. Anyone can set up a twitter account and post vile shit and blame it on trans activists. And whilst I don't think GC feminists would do that, although I'm not so sure about some of the GC men, people from the far right would not think twice - in fact if you look on 4chan it's the kind of thing they actively plan and boast about doing it. And as reluctant as you might be to do anything about it you've got fascists on your side now.

why do TRAs on these boards always use 'lol' to punctuate?

How many other murderers and rapists are given the floor at the HoL?

I don't know but I think it's important those responsible for prisons hear the views of long term prisoners and by it's nature that is going to mean listening to people who have done horrifying things.

but anyone who thinks that TRAs saying 'suck my girldick' to women they dislike are using threatening language is totally wrong? Because some Americans apparently say 'suck my dick' to each other in a jokey way?

And we have been told from a poster, who from the very first post under the current name they use, has also shown they have a habit of denigrating, demonising, shaming and disparage and sneering at any woman who disagrees with their personal political agenda. In nearly every single post.

Who believes that they are righteous for whatever reason they have come up with.

It is quite remarkable to think about it. Someone so heavily invested in telling women to STFU in so many ways on so many posts, is now telling women what is and what is NOT a credible rape threat. Because 'they' judge that it is not.

Yep. Surprised I tell you.

At least they make it hard for readers to misunderstand the issues by showing a live demonstration.

@sausagebap

why do TRAs on these boards always use 'lol' to punctuate?

They are obviously down with the cool kids sausage.

No, the reason I asked for someone who was not anonymous is because a lot of the time people are not who they say they are online.

Again.... no.... not us. We didn't do it.

Strange isn't it that the same phrase is used in real life interactions as well. Or... no. Those people yelling that same threat and writing threatening placards are also not us....

@scalliondays

Interestingly, Edinburgh Rape crisis seem to be advertising for several new volunteer counsellors but add that ''only women need apply for the above volunteer roles under Schedule 9, Part 1 of the Equality Act 2010'' Shouldn't that have applied to Mridul Whadwa? Wouldn't the centre then have avoided the disgraceful remarks about challenging bigoted views and just efficiently got on with the essential job of helping rape and sexual abuse survivors?

Yes. Mridul Whadwa was not eligible to apply for the CEO role due to their sex. ERCC invoked the occupational exemption and then just disregarded it.

There's quite a few questions around - political influence (MW being pally with Nicola Sturgeon), whether ERCC had decided that MW was getting the job even before it was advertised and were reducing pool of applicants by not allowing males to advertise and of course the ERCC's funding from the Scottish Government being contingent on being 'inclusive'. The Scottish Government who are advised by and allow themselves to be heavily lobbied by Stonewall.

Then of course there was Andrea Cachia:

'omw to make a bitches pronouns was/were ' while posing with a gun

Another tweet, dated May 17, shows two images of guns, including a pink gun sporting a transgender symbol. “You’re going on a TERF hunt, what u takin,”

‘Making a nice list of terfs tweeting WomenWontWheesht because she needs target practice’.”

etc

www.womenarehuman.com/trans-extremist-investigated-for-threats-to-supporters-of-woman-who-shared-pic-of-suffrage-ribbons/

Thank you, barley.

I mean it.

Thank you for relentlessly time and again driving this thread away from the point with nit picking on minor points, deviations, baseless accusations and flights of fantasy into guilt by association.

Thank you for not answering the real questions, for not addressing the substantive issues, for not grasping womens realities.

Thank you for bumping the thread repeatedly and giving women the opportunity to demonstrate why we do what we do, why we continue to highlight injustices to our sex such as the appointment of Mridul Wadwha and what it means to our right and desire for single sex environments.

Thank you. You are achieving more than you know.

@sausagebap

why do TRAs on these boards always use 'lol' to punctuate?

I've also seen 'amirite' quite a lot recently.

It is quite remarkable to think about it. Someone so heavily invested in telling women to STFU in so many ways on so many posts, is now telling women what is and what is NOT a credible rape threat. Because 'they' judge that it is not.

I constantly hear people in the gender critical movement saying words have meaning and those meanings matter. I think those banners were misogynist and I condemn them however it is not a rape or death threat - both of which would be serious criminal offences incidentally. It's a profanity, much like swivel on it, kiss my arse or eat shit - unpleasant and abusive in this context yes, but not a threat.

You don't think that the phrase 'suck my dick' is a threat. Even when it's directed at a woman by someone who is very open about how much they hate women, GC views and women talking about women's rights?

Give over, you can't possibly be that disengenous. You're making yourself ridiculous.

Again barley, words do have meaning. And every word in that phrase means something.

suck my dick you transphobic cunt.

It is an order, it is threatening. But do, please, keep on going. You are a live demonstration every time you post.

Keep on telling women what and what we should not consider a threat.

No woman thinks that suck my dick cunt is not a threat of sexual violence. of course it is. What else is it?

I'm not at all surprised Barley doesn't realise that, though.

@barleybadminton

It is quite remarkable to think about it. Someone so heavily invested in telling women to STFU in so many ways on so many posts, is now telling women what is and what is NOT a credible rape threat. Because 'they' judge that it is not.

I constantly hear people in the gender critical movement saying words have meaning and those meanings matter. I think those banners were misogynist and I condemn them however it is not a rape or death threat - both of which would be serious criminal offences incidentally. It's a profanity, much like swivel on it, kiss my arse or eat shit - unpleasant and abusive in this context yes, but not a threat.

No. You don't get to tell us to lighten up and relax.

Stuff these in your modem.

barley is stuck to a narrative, and will never back down, and Mridul is deluded and needs to attack anything that threatens the delusion... And that's really it. Question is, what do we do about it?!

Good summary, Crumpet.

At the moment, what I think we’re doing is a live demonstration how womens realities are dismissed out of hand.

What kind of mind can deny that right to request a female examiner to a shaking, traumatised woman on the worst day of her life when that person is also the CEO of a rape crisis centre?

The kind of mind that allies with a predator and condemns the predator's victim for not reacting with forgiveness, perhaps?

The kind of mind that disbelieves victims of sexual harassment and assault?

The kind of mind that constantly minimises the impact of threats of sexual violence?
The kind of mind that cannot