Jennifer Swayne arrested for stickering.

[Thelnebriati]

Jennifer Swayne has been arrested on charges of vandalism, ‘hate crimes’ and public order offences. Police searched her house and removed several sheets of stickers.

twitter.com/WeAreFairCop/status/1485304357293891588

I hear you, Gina, I hear you.

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria

I hear you, Gina, I hear you.

I never use textspeak, but I think that gets a ROFL.. It really ticked me..me..me....

Garden up to 35k now.

If, as we keep getting told, trans women are women (God, I get irritable just typing it) then how is murderous male violence against women transphobic?

This is the thread I failed to recollect.

Chester Women's Aid. Despite there being no names of transwomen killed that year to be read out at the Pride event, they stated - 'We have decided not to participate, as there will not be a specific declaration when reading out the list of women killed by men’s violence that we recognise and include transwomen in our protest.'

They also declare Karen Ingala Smith as transphobic for not including transwomen in her project. It's worth bearing in mind that the Government does not appear to collect the names of women killed by men in the UK and this is why the list compiled by Karen is used. There doesn't seem to be any attempt by other women's groups (who insist that this data collection be 'inclusive') to compile their own list. They just want to compel Karen to do so.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a4368084-is-there-any-proof-statistics-that-back-up-the-claim-that-trans-people-are-the-most-marginalised-and-abused-communities?msgid=111422025#111422025

@TheABC

Garden up to 35k now.

See, that plants bravery, doesn't it?

I'm sure that Jenni is very nice, but the people donating won't actually know her, so the crowdfunders always put me in mind of Dworkin:

"Feminism is a political practice of fighting male supremacy on behalf of women as a class, including all the women you don't like, including all the women you don't want to be around, including all the women who used to be your best friends whom you don't want anything to do with anymore. It doesn't matter who the individual women are."

The crowdfunders are the embodiment of courage calling to courage.

And all that money has been raised since what, 1 o'clock yesterday afternoon? It's astonishing. And despite the whole 'right wing bigots funded by fundamentalists' trope , the vast majority of those donations are small amounts - £10 or £20 mostly so it's thousands of people giving their own money to someone they will probably never meet because they believe in fairness and free speech and decency.

It's absolutely inspiring.

Some background information:

twitter.com/StoatlyL/status/1486110057662193664

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-58020985

[quote EmbarrassingHadrosaurus]If, as we keep getting told, trans women are women (God, I get irritable just typing it) then how is murderous male violence against women transphobic?

This is the thread I failed to recollect.

Chester Women's Aid. Despite there being no names of transwomen killed that year to be read out at the Pride event, they stated - 'We have decided not to participate, as there will not be a specific declaration when reading out the list of women killed by men’s violence that we recognise and include transwomen in our protest.'

They also declare Karen Ingala Smith as transphobic for not including transwomen in her project. It's worth bearing in mind that the Government does not appear to collect the names of women killed by men in the UK and this is why the list compiled by Karen is used. There doesn't seem to be any attempt by other women's groups (who insist that this data collection be 'inclusive') to compile their own list. They just want to compel Karen to do so.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a4368084-is-there-any-proof-statistics-that-back-up-the-claim-that-trans-people-are-the-most-marginalised-and-abused-communities?msgid=111422025#111422025[/quote]
How PinkNews reported it.

Chester Women’s Aid pulled out of the Chester Women’s March at the weekend, due to a lack of commitment by march organisers to be inclusive of trans women.

“When we call for an end to violence against women, we mean all women,”Chester Women’s Aidsaid in a statement posted to Twitter on 3 July.

The statement continues: “Chester Women’s Aid wishes the Chester Women’s March a safe and impactful event tonight.

“We have decided not to participate, as there will not be a specific declaration when reading out the list of women killed by men’s violence that we recognise and include transwomen in our protest.”

A list of names of women murdered by their partners was to be read out during the march – as it is in parliament each year on International Women’s Day.

The list of names is collected by a project calledCounting Dead Womenand is the only such data collected in the UK. It does not include the names of trans women killed, Chester Women’s Aid said on Twitter, explaining that this is why it specifically asked for the mention of trans women.

Link to CWA's statement

twitter.com/Chesterwomenaid/status/1411385504747098115?t=uYKEHRnQLXdr73W9by--Pg&s=19

Image is their statement.

And just to highlight the final sentence of the BBC article linked above -

'Update on 30 November 2021: South Wales Police has confirmed to BBC Wales that it is no longer investigating this case and no further action has been taken.'

@Waitwhat23

And just to highlight the final sentence of the BBC article linked above -

'Update on 30 November 2021: South Wales Police has confirmed to BBC Wales that it is no longer investigating this case and no further action has been taken.'

For anyone skimming the thread, SWP are no longer investigating the Stoatly case.

Jennifer Swayne is still awaiting news and there's a crowdfunder for an appropriate response.

I believe Gwent Police has said they had six complaints about Jen's stickers/posters.

Just want to suggest an edit to this - it should be they had six complaints of GC/"transphobic" stickers/posters. Jenni is not the only possible source of them in Newport.
Unless there is CCTV of her putting them up to correlate with each of the six complaints.

[quote nauticant]Some background information:

twitter.com/StoatlyL/status/1486110057662193664

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-58020985[/quote]
And this is a useful summary of the razor blade allegation on that occasion.

I may be wrong, but it's my understanding that this same person tweeted a selfie with train tickets to Newport, off to do some trans rights stickering? And subsequently tweeted that the police had approved of the stickers?

If the good MNers of Newport (& those who have cause to visit for work or to see family etc) have seen any of the “shut the fuck up TERF” stickers please do report them to the police & council.

They are, by definition, offensive simply due to the profanity.

However, if stickers can be hate crimes, I don’t see why posting those stickers alongside & over ones about the need for single-sex spaces can’t arguably be a hate-crime against the protected characteristic of religion. They are refusing to accept & acknowledge the peoples of faith who require single sex spaces & instead i. demanding they be silent & ii. seeking to dismiss them & delegitimise the requirements of their religion by calling them a slur. More importantly, Jennifer is a disabled woman & same-sex exemptions protect disabled women. The right to carers of the same sex; to only share accommodation with female people if admitted to hospital; the right to request HCPs of the same sex & to decline care from men - all women need those rights, of course, but there is an additional importance to them for disabled women simply because they’re more likely to need to exercise them [regularly]. Thus seeking to silence her on the matter of single sex spaces is arguably a disability hate crime. Particularly because The Other Stickers included violent imagery.

Could someone spare some money to get Gwent Police a nice sticker album & few packs of stickers to get their collection started? They do seem a bit over-invested in stories about stickers, so it might keep them out of trouble for a bit - & as previously established, they obviously have no actual crime to tackle if they can have officers devoted to MNing as well as the Sticker Squad

Train tickets to deTERF Newport (and more) here.

@barleybadminton

It's interesting to me how the trans supportive posters here generally stick to discussion of the facts and rarely post personal attacks. Only to be met with post after post of personal attacks. Almost as if one side is happy to debate, but the other side prefers bullying.

You convince absolutly no one.

Have you called us all white and middle class yet? I always love that racist and classist assumption, espicially coming from someone who has just delivered a lecture on not assuming their sex.

Over £37,000 raised in a little over 24 hours.

I hope this sends a message to all the men out there who think women are going to shut the fuck up about this.

We're not.

We will crowd fund.
Every. Single. Time.

It's not just some men who want us to go down quietly.
I know at least two women in my office who want nothing more than for other women to be quiet.
Ah women, the exception to the rule.

These people are in for a long wait. Women will never shut up about the removal of women's rights - or the removal of safeguarding for children. Never ever.

Our Twitter overlords are spooked.

Today, for some reason whenever I have clicked on twitter links either posted here or on my GC Watsap group, the page instantly demands I login. I dont have a login so I cant see anything.

It does not usually do this and you can read threads without logging in.
Is anyone else getting this?

You convince absolutly no one.

Have you called us all white and middle class yet? I always love that racist and classist assumption, espicially coming from someone who has just delivered a lecture on not assuming their sex.

I don't suppose you have any ideas about tonight's lottery numbers, do you? Because I was wondering if you were psychic. That was indeed Barley's opening salvo!

See,I knew that someone would be here to put me right about how I spend my money,and was I right with bells on?
Dear Lord. I left school at 16,but even I know that the law doesn't work how some posters undoubtedly wish it did.
I've also undertaken safeguarding training recently,and you absolutely do have a duty to report anything that arouses suspicions. There'd be no point in safeguarding if you just reacted retrospectively.
Anyway,back to the subject at hand. I'm delighted to read how much has been donated in less than 48 hours. More power to you,Jenni.

@Goatsaregreat

These people are in for a long wait. Women will never shut up about the removal of women's rights - or the removal of safeguarding for children. Never ever.

I struggle to understand that if there are those unpleasant enough to feel that a 'win' is that women are stripped of rights and oppressed and threatened into not being able to speak about their oppression, that they are also stupid enough to think that this state of affairs will successfully go on for long.

What generally happens in history when there's a fed up captive population? The group of women realising and speaking out grows constantly, many of whom will openly say initially they thought they were fighting the good fight - and then realised what the agenda they were supporting actually meant for women and children. This group will keep on growing.

Rainbows, harmony, sunshine and glittery happiness does not lie in this direction.

Today, for some reason hmm whenever I have clicked on twitter links either posted here or on my GC Watsap group, the page instantly demands I login. I dont have a login so I cant see anything.

It does not usually do this and you can read threads without logging in.
Is anyone else getting this?

I had this yesterday - the only way round it was for me to use a private browser.

@Farihaagain

Our Twitter overlords are spooked.

Today, for some reason whenever I have clicked on twitter links either posted here or on my GC Watsap group, the page instantly demands I login. I dont have a login so I cant see anything.

It does not usually do this and you can read threads without logging in.
Is anyone else getting this?

Yes, me too?

Indeed Artichokeleaves. A quick glance under all the articles in countless publications detailing the march of the trans misogynists shows tens of thousands of ordinary people recognising the dangers and outrageous anti democratic tactics that have been employed by the anti women / anti child safeguarding brigades.

They're on the back foot which is why we are so regularly visited by the male supremacists.