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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Matt Walsh asks trans activist 'what is a woman'..

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sacredfeminina · 20/01/2022 23:30

Stumbled accross this on twitter. Matt Walsh, an American political commentator is on a chat show and confronts transactivist to define a woman and tells him that he is appropriating womanhood.

Then after being told that he has 'traumatised' the activists... He provides this response!!

Wow. He says sh*t straight.... Haha!

Talkshow:

Response:
twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1484268313815441418?s=20

OP posts:
UserBot999 · 20/01/2022 23:41

Ha, good for matt.

TurquoiseBaubles · 20/01/2022 23:44

Wow, I'm so glad I saw that because I suspect it won't last very long, either on here or on Twitter.

He is absolutely spot on. He is right, and that's why people don't want him to say it.

I especially liked the bit "... the rape, trauma and abuse that happens ..." is worth it. Because that's exactly how activists feel. They do not care about the rape, trauma and abuse of women, as long as they can have what they want.

oxalisRed · 20/01/2022 23:51

I don't know what Matt Walsh normally comments on. I did watch a snippet of the show earlier where he stated his opinions, opinions with which I mostly agree. Except to declare that "you're evil", no I don't agree with that. There's no need to descend to such depths.

Particular people maybe, all people who don't agree with him, no.

CaptainCarp · 20/01/2022 23:59

I can't believe the word salad of trying to or not define women, got clapped 🤦‍♀️

Sonex · 21/01/2022 00:01

Spot on. Great to see a man being so on point about what we already know.

CiaoForDiNiaoSaur · 21/01/2022 00:11

Way to go Matt!

Thirtytimesround · 21/01/2022 00:13

Very depressing to hear the audience clapping the nonsense bit. Brainwashed suck ups.

Huge respect for Matt.

Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 21/01/2022 00:14

I think evil is the perfect word to describe what is happening tbh.

It's ridiculous to be expected to continue conversations with people who think that you can't define a women unless you are one and that you can define in circular ways (a woman is anyone who identifies as a woman). Both of these are indicators of a significant issue in your classification system, the point of which is to have some significant degree of coherence of understanding - otherwise what the hell is the point in a category?

Crustypiepants · 21/01/2022 00:29

Completely agree with him on this issue..However, Matt is very anti abortion and is against same sex marriage . He would happily take those rights off us women in a heartbeat!

TurquoiseBaubles · 21/01/2022 00:42

It is evil. Anyone who thinks that the rape and trauma of a woman is less important than the feelings of a man is evil, in my opinion. Anyone who tries to remove safeguarding on the grounds that some people may be upset is evil. Anyone who thinks it's ok to allow (or even encourage) girls to have their breasts removed is evil.

Evil is a strong word, and I'd be reluctant to say to an individual "you are evil" but I am happy to direct the generic "you are evil" to the proponents of such a harmful movement.

In relation to his opinions on abortion - I don't have to agree with anyone about everything; I can agree with them on one thing and profoundly disagree with them on another. In this instance is he correct.

allmywhat · 21/01/2022 00:46

Wow. I vaguely know that he’s some kind of extreme conservative but I guess that gives him the social leeway to say it like he sees it.

It’s startlingly rare to see an online beardy man who actually thinks rape is bad and gets angry about it. I appreciated that even though it made me realise how low the bar is.

allmywhat · 21/01/2022 00:47

@CaptainCarp

I can't believe the word salad of trying to or not define women, got clapped 🤦‍♀️
I think it’s because the magic “trans women are women” catchphrase got mumbled somewhere in there.
StopStartStop · 21/01/2022 00:53

Wow! That's direct!

CheeseMmmm · 21/01/2022 04:50

I have no idea who this man is.

What I would say is-

  • Posters say vv right assuming Christian USA. Given that, assuming true, I very much doubt he's raising rape etc for any reason other than argument point. If his beliefs are v anti abortion in way blokes USA v right Christian usually are.

  • How did he get any trans people on there? They must have known what in for. What attitude did he display? I mean. Was he a bit/v nasty?

Because again. USA v right Christian etc. And I don't know anything about him except posts on here. Generally though means homophobic, patriarchal max etc. Trans people. Obv. Against beliefs. Not to do with concern for women. But about those who violate (v confining) sex roles.

Loads of posts on here recently saying yay look at this (bloody awful person) nail this! Isn't he great everyone!

Just... FYI. Worth proceeding with caution rather than throwing bunting around. IMO.

CheeseMmmm · 21/01/2022 04:55

Wiki. Yikes.

Always worth a bit of a Google this stuff.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Walsh_(political_commentator)

Some excerpts-

'Walsh has written three books: The Unholy Trinity: Blocking the Left's Assault on Life, Marriage, and Gender (2017),...'

'Walsh opposes abortion.[17] He does not believe in marriage between people of the same sex,[verification needed] and does not believe that it is possible to be transgender.[verification needed][15][18][19]

Some of his commentary has been described by media outlets as trolling'

'When South Dakota governor Kristi Noem declined to ban businesses from requiring a COVID-19 vaccine for their employees, he criticized her by writing that she was only considered a 2024 Republican presidential contender because of her physical attractiveness.[2] After Noem called his comment misogynistic, Walsh said he had no regrets but would "accept apologies from all of the performative idiots pretending to be offended by it'.

CheeseMmmm · 21/01/2022 05:01

Bollocks is he worried about women. Except maybe in an ownership way.

Bollocks does he care about rape. Contradictory to what I am comfortable assuming his abortion views are.

He just hates anyone who is not. Women girls must be like this. Men boys must be like that. Anyone not like that is dangerous/ sinful etc. Must be treated as they deserve.

Yeah nope.

This guy beliefs disaster for .. loads of people. Definitely very much nightmare for women/girls.

Let him do his thing. He's zero to do with me and anything I think, believe, care about.

nolongersurprised · 21/01/2022 05:32

twitter.com/mattwalshblog/status/1483925582274564097?s=10

He called out the lack of concern for girls’ safety in gender-neutral bathrooms as well. He did it very well. Who knows if he “really cares” or not - he put what happened in Loudon (?sp) county out there, to a mainstream audience with a hostile studio audience. He is getting the expected abuse on Twitter- although no rape or death threats - and not backing down.

He pointed out that womanhood is not to be appropriated and worn and I applaud him for that.

I don’t care if I don’t agree with him on other stuff, he’s spot on with this, and unrepentant and effective.

NotBadConsidering · 21/01/2022 06:39

CheeseMmmm

You have fallen into the exact same trap that the education board at the Loudoun County school where a male raped two girls. You’ve looked at who is speaking, and focused on their background, rather than listening to what they are saying. The concerns of parents, include the father of one of the victims, were dismissed because of the perception of what they were motivated by. As a result, no one listened, concerns were ignored and another girl was a victim.

It doesn’t matter what Matt Walsh has said in the past, or where his thoughts on other matters lie, on this he is correct. He went in front of a massive audience, calmly asked basic questions like “what is a woman?”, showed up the ideology for all it is and even got a professor to say, just moments after talking about the rape of a girl, that “it’s not a safety issue”:

mobile.twitter.com/mattwalshblog/status/1483925582274564097?s=10

For what it’s worth I believe he cares about this issue, I don’t think being conservative on other issues means you can’t, and it’s ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

rabbitwoman · 21/01/2022 06:50

He has written some books and has opinions that I would most certainly not agree with.

But if I were sat there on that show with that person trying to tell me that 'womanhood is woman is whoever says they are woman....' I would say exactly what he said. Or I would want to.

By the way, if someone asks me if I am trying to define who a woman is by their genitals, by their ability to have children, I say yes. Because that's what a woman is. And the consequences of that on women throughout the history of human kind have been so significant that it effects even those who have not had children (whether they chose that or not.)

If there is a whole movement of people trying to redefine the word woman as something that is not physically tangible, something that no one can actually quite put their finger on, who benefits? Not me. Not girls at skool who don't even know yet whether they can have children, whether they will want to have children, whether they will have the opportunity to have children but will certainly already be feeling the effects of mysogyny and sexism. Not the 12 year old girl being forced into a marriage she does not want before her fertility is clear. Not the child held down and mutilated by her trusted family members before she's ever even had sex.

Its such a weak, insulting argument and yet it seems to stop people in their tracks every time.... ' oh yes, TW ARE W because otherwise we are saying women who can't have children aren't real women....'

Here is a newsflash.... Lots of trans women have, and can still continue to have, children. By impregnating women with their penises.

NotBadConsidering · 21/01/2022 07:12

The whole “you’re trying to reduce the definition of ‘woman’ to genitals/biology/reproduction” is so bonkers. The word woman already has a definition based on those things! It’s not us trying to change it to something new! The definition exists! Everyone else knows what it is! It’s batshit crazy people trying to gaslight the rest of world by claiming the definition has never been based on biology and then claiming it has a different definition based on circular reasoning and nebulous feelings. Stop trying to pretend we are coming up with something extreme and “out there”.

That’s pretty much all that Walsh does on Dr Phil, ask these people to justify why the rest of the world needs to change their pre-existing millennia old definition of a word to their definition and lo and behold, they can’t, then claim to be traumatised by such a question.

Who cares what else Walsh thinks about other things? He basically encapsulated every MN FWR thread that asks the plopper TRAs these exact same questions that can never be answered, but on one of the most watched TV shows is the world.

HasaDigaEebowai · 21/01/2022 07:21

Looks like the video has been cut already. It stops before any reference to safety etc

NotBadConsidering · 21/01/2022 07:26

“What is a woman?”

“Sorry, before we proceed in analysing that question and the answer to it, we must first establish where you, the person asking, sit within our moral judgement. If you fit within our beliefs, we can continue. If you don’t, there’s the door.”

It’s such childish nonsense, about who’s on whose “side” 🙄. The answer was idiotic! The person giving the idiotic answer shouldn’t get overlooked because the person asking the question is guilty of wrongthink in other areas.

NotBadConsidering · 21/01/2022 07:27

The professor says “I don’t know if it’s a safety issue at 1 min 10s.

Whatwouldscullydo · 21/01/2022 07:33

cheese

Do we really want to fall into the trap like the tras of the " perfect source"

Even people we disagree with on some aspects , we will likely agree with on another. Because truth and reality aren't exclusive to being liked being pure etc

There are lots of people I dislike and disagree with much if what they say. But I'm.not going to make myself look like an idiot just so I don't accidentally agree with someone I dislike.

Thats how you end up like the tras on the clip. Backed into a corner, unable to answer a simple question.

Because it becomes about disagreement on purpose. If trump said water was wet I'm not going to say otherwise just to not agree with him.

Datun · 21/01/2022 07:36

@HasaDigaEebowai

Looks like the video has been cut already. It stops before any reference to safety etc
And the censorship will now become part of the issue.

The immense power behind the ideology is revealed.

It's more sunlight, not less.