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sacredfeminina · 2022-01-20T23:30:17+00:00

Stumbled accross this on twitter. Matt Walsh, an American political commentator is on a chat show and confronts transactivist to define a woman and tells him that he is appropriating womanhood. Then after being told that he has 'traumatised' the activists... He provides this response!! Wow. He says sh*t straight.... Haha! Talkshow: [[https://youtu.be/nhWo1AOrSrY]] Response: [[https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1484268313815441418?s=20]]

nolongersurprised · 21/01/2022 07:40

It stops before any reference to safety etc

It’s on the second link

AdamRyan · 21/01/2022 07:53

Yeah I agree with cheese
I think he's hostile and nasty, tarring all trans people with the same brush and using words like "evil".
I think he is transphobic and I don't want to come across as allied to someone like that, despite having very very strong concerns about self ID and "TWAW" myself.

Not impressed with that link at all.

nolongersurprised · 21/01/2022 07:59

and using words like "evil"

I think any ideology that promotes destroying the endocrine systems and fertility of children is evil.

What adjectives would you use?

NotBadConsidering · 21/01/2022 08:02

Where does he tar all trans people with the same brush? He’s directly addressing his fellow guests.

NotBadConsidering · 21/01/2022 08:05

I think any ideology that promotes destroying the endocrine systems and fertility of children is evil

Agreed.

And any ideology that puts rapists in prison with women is evil.

And any ideology that prevents parents from raising concerns at school meetings leading to another girl being raped is evil.

And any ideology that says “it will never happen!” and ignores all the examples of it happening is evil.

Thumpsquids · 21/01/2022 08:14

One of those wonderful examples of it being perfectly possible to agree with a person 10% of the time, whilst also disagreeing with their other beliefs or claims. Walsh was absolutely correct here. How he chooses to put his point across, perhaps in a children's book, (Johnny The Walrus) may not be to everyone's taste, but here he asked clear, direct questions and was not afforded clear, direct answers. It will be ammunition for the TRA's who'll claim that agreeing with Walsh here must mean you agree with his full gamut of politics, but most, I'm sure, will see that as the silly argument it is.

AdamRyan · 21/01/2022 08:14

He doesn't present it as aimed at an ideology, he presents it as aimed at people. Repeatedly pointing and saying "you". "You are a bad person".

I agree the ideology is damaging to women and children and I'm vocally against it and have been for a long time.

But that doesn't mean I'm happy to applaud a right wing commentator using words like "evil" to describe a whole group of other humans.

He comes across to me as a bigot. Compare his response to the measured and non-directed approach of JKR. I totally agree with her. I can't support him.

AdamRyan · 21/01/2022 08:14

(I'm referring to his twitter reply, not the original video)

nolongersurprised · 21/01/2022 08:16

But that doesn't mean I'm happy to applaud a right wing commentator using words like "evil" to describe a whole group of other humans

It wasn’t a group though, it was the trans activists who are promoting an evil trans ideology.

NotBadConsidering · 21/01/2022 08:16

@AdamRyan

He doesn't present it as aimed at an ideology, he presents it as aimed at people. Repeatedly pointing and saying "you". "You are a bad person".

I agree the ideology is damaging to women and children and I'm vocally against it and have been for a long time.

But that doesn't mean I'm happy to applaud a right wing commentator using words like "evil" to describe a whole group of other humans.

He comes across to me as a bigot. Compare his response to the measured and non-directed approach of JKR. I totally agree with her. I can't support him.

But you’ve pointed out he is aiming it at people. The people he was on the show with. Those people he thinks are bad people. Not all trans people.

Whatwouldscullydo · 21/01/2022 08:16

I think any ideology that promotes destroying the endocrine systems and fertility of children is evil

We used to give some of these medications to sex offenders to prevent them from being able to re offend.

We no longer do this. Sex offenders get to.keep.their sexual function.

Children now receive " care" deemed too problematic even for sex offenders in prison.

How anyone would rather be on the side of that, because some of the people opposing it might hold views they don't like, I don't know.

ItsCoachBombay · 21/01/2022 08:25

I watched this clip and the man in question is a conservative political speaker.

I put my head in my hand when he explained rightly so what a "woman" is refering to anatomy and the other person came back with "but what if a woman is born without those organs" the words "well she'd be a infertile woman, but still a woman" slipped out 🤦🏻‍♀️

Infertile women are still women...does the other side not get this.

Helleofabore · 21/01/2022 08:26

Meh! Another group of males discussing what the word woman means.

And in the context that one of them draws their livelihood from posing in a bikini, hips thrust to emulate a female model’s pose, the use of the word ‘costume’ may have some relevance. The bikini must be custom made to fit a penis and testicles as it is certain not to fit a woman.

So, yes. Good on that man straight talking. But it was still a male to male conversation discussing the meaning of the word woman.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/01/2022 08:27

I don’t care if I don’t agree with him on other stuff, he’s spot on with this, and unrepentant and effective.

I agree, I've followed him for a while on Twitter, I don't agree with most of his other stuff but he's influential.

Whatwouldscullydo · 21/01/2022 08:27

And yes I'd like to know what word we could use to describe..

Drs who run illegal gender clinics

Fire whistle blowers bring it to attention that concerns have been raised after a female child was left with the spine of an.80 yr old.

Who say that those qho are same sex attracted are sexual racists .

Who misrepresent suicide statistics to emotionally blackmail people into doing what they say.

Who things saying no to a male is worse than rapists being placed in womens prison.

What's the difference really, between being against sane sex attraction as right wing people sometimes are, and telling lesbians they are genital fetishets and they should get over their hang ups about penises and accept transwomen in their dating pool.

How's it difference?

AdamRyan · 21/01/2022 08:28

It's not about sides at all. It's all more nuanced than that.
If I was sharing something with friends, to introduce them to the gender debate, I wouldn't share his response as he seems quite aggressive. I'd share JKR or Peachyogurt or Magdalen Berns - they are assertive.

This is an opinion thread. Someone posted the video and asked for opinions. My opinion is this man has the hallmarks of a transphobe, driven by religious ideology. I can't support that, despite agreeing that the trans ideology (TWAW) harms women and girls.

I also can't support calling a couple of people who've been on a panel show debating the ideology "evil" and "bad people". They were expressing their opinion, which they are perfectly entitled to hold. Its like me calling religious people "evil" because I'm atheist and can give (many,many many) examples of the harm religion does. I'd never do that though, because the individual people who follow the religion are 1) entitled to their opinion and 2) on the whole, not influential at all on what the religion does (unless I happened to be talking to the pope).

I feel like someone needs to break out the Venn diagram

Helleofabore · 21/01/2022 08:29

@ItsCoachBombay

I watched this clip and the man in question is a conservative political speaker.

I put my head in my hand when he explained rightly so what a "woman" is refering to anatomy and the other person came back with "but what if a woman is born without those organs" the words "well she'd be a infertile woman, but still a woman" slipped out 🤦🏻‍♀️

Infertile women are still women...does the other side not get this.

They actually don’t care. Other people’s medical conditions are a tool to progress their political goals.

Hence the inclusion of the ‘I’ in LGBTQI. We know many people with DSDs absolutely don’t want their medical conditions used as a tool for promoting the belief people can change sex.

But still the activists persist.

MiladyBerserko · 21/01/2022 08:30

Purity spiral bullshit again.

I don't give a shit if he is against abortion. People are are allowed opinions. Abortion is a difficult subject.

I'm happy genderism is getting proper light so that the public can see what they want. The women represented the genderists'position well - they don't care about the safety of women and girls, that is to be sacrificed for genderism.

Let the public hear more of their shit.

Totalwasteofpaper · 21/01/2022 08:30

👏👏👏
Yes matt!

Thank you

Agree with @Whatwouldscullydo I legitimately believe some of things things being done to children now are reprehensible, immoral and certainly bordering on evil.

AdamRyan · 21/01/2022 08:31

deadwildroses.com/2019/10/07/handy-venn-diagrams-the-radical-feminist-position-on-gender/amp/

I guess I am very reluctant to use the term evil anyway. Its not helpful really

nolongersurprised · 21/01/2022 08:31

Meh! Another group of males discussing what the word woman means

The shorter of the two TRAs was a transman, I’m pretty sure.

NotBadConsidering · 21/01/2022 08:36

@AdamRyan

It's not about sides at all. It's all more nuanced than that. If I was sharing something with friends, to introduce them to the gender debate, I wouldn't share his response as he seems quite aggressive. I'd share JKR or Peachyogurt or Magdalen Berns - they are assertive.

This is an opinion thread. Someone posted the video and asked for opinions. My opinion is this man has the hallmarks of a transphobe, driven by religious ideology. I can't support that, despite agreeing that the trans ideology (TWAW) harms women and girls.

I also can't support calling a couple of people who've been on a panel show debating the ideology "evil" and "bad people". They were expressing their opinion, which they are perfectly entitled to hold. Its like me calling religious people "evil" because I'm atheist and can give (many,many many) examples of the harm religion does. I'd never do that though, because the individual people who follow the religion are 1) entitled to their opinion and 2) on the whole, not influential at all on what the religion does (unless I happened to be talking to the pope).

I feel like someone needs to break out the Venn diagram

Your opinion is much more worthwhile with your 3rd paragraph, where you have actually addressed what he did - directly call activists he was on the show with “evil” for the ideology they push. Prior to that your opinion was based on something he didn’t do, more it was based on your inference.

Personally I agree with him. Every time someone publicly opines this nonsense, they are directly contributing to the proliferation of treatments harming children.

MiladyBerserko · 21/01/2022 08:39

It's the same bollocks, different version that the Head Girls come up with in their opposition to Posie, because she apparently has the wrong opinions on some topics.

No thanks. I'm perfectly capable of independently holding opinions on a range of topics. I don't need to be told off for being in the wrong camp. Fuck that.

Helleofabore · 21/01/2022 08:39

The shorter of the two TRAs was a transman, I’m pretty sure.

Sorry. You are right. Missed parts of that clip.

So…. Three males and a female who rejects being a woman discussing what a woman is.

Still a ‘Meh!’ from me.

ScreamingMeMe · 21/01/2022 08:40

So more than one select group of people believes gender ideology is dangerous nonsense. Why is that a bad thing?