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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Matt Walsh asks trans activist 'what is a woman'..

615 replies

sacredfeminina · 20/01/2022 23:30

Stumbled accross this on twitter. Matt Walsh, an American political commentator is on a chat show and confronts transactivist to define a woman and tells him that he is appropriating womanhood.

Then after being told that he has 'traumatised' the activists... He provides this response!!

Wow. He says sh*t straight.... Haha!

Talkshow:

Response:
twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1484268313815441418?s=20

OP posts:
Whatwouldscullydo · 21/01/2022 08:43

I also wish I knew what it was that possess people to go onto a TV show completely unprepared and unable to define their terms.

Then cry/get angry and play the victim when as a results your arguments are easily debunked amd you make yourself look stupid.

If you want to " win" prepare better.

OldCrone · 21/01/2022 08:52

The shorter of the two TRAs was a transman, I’m pretty sure.

There's a longer clip from the show here which makes that very clear.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=iw075B9iqxw

There's also a piece by two parents dicussing what their children are being taught about gender in school and the mother of a 3 year old who is letting her child choose their own 'gender'.

Helleofabore · 21/01/2022 08:53

Sadly whatwouldscullydo. That is the point of which their identities rest on. Being free to define any word as they wish to, whether it is woman, man, any word they want to adapt to their individual desire.

Individualism at its finest.

Helleofabore · 21/01/2022 08:54

Thanks old crone for the longer clip.

CeilingWax · 21/01/2022 08:58

Isn’t there some similarity between not being able to state scientific facts that hurt some people’s feelings and not being able to say that a person doing bad things is a bad person?

I understand the argument that we ought not to necessarily condemn the whole person for one bad act and be careful especially with children, and do believe that we need to leave the door open for genuine remorse and rehabilitation, but actually there are some people out there who struggle to accept norms and morals values because they want to do what they however they want it regardless of the consequences for others, but they still want to be seen as a ‘good person’.

They don’t want to develop a conscience and feel appropriate guilt or shame in-line with common moral values because they would mean facing restrictions and unfulfilled desires and the inability to deal with that leads to “boohoo, that’s so unfair and mean”, “why are you controlling me”, or worse.

I think with people like this we need to be clear, with them, that actually committing a multitude of bad acts does mean that you are in fact a bad person. Saying please and thank you politely does not undo the bigger harms.

Psychologically it would be better to help people to process shame in a healthy way, to enforce boundaries, demonstrate natural consequences and help develop more empathy so people can make better choices rather than to react with ‘be kind’ appeasement where we can’t hurt their feelings, Also to understand that arguing with some people about empathy and boundaries is sadly a pointless exercise.

I don’t think I would agree with Matt Walsh on many other aspects, but I always think that whilst misogynist men do not value women as they should, they do know full well what men can be like and this makes them very qualified to oppose men in women’s spaces.

nolongersurprised · 21/01/2022 08:58

For many viewers this will be the first time they’ve heard about what happened at Loudoun County (sp again).

The Washington post wrote an article who said that the girl who was raped wasn’t raped because she was in a consensual relationship with the GNC boy, but when he was actually convicted of rape - not a peep. No apology or retraction or anything

Matt Walsh has done something important here.

Whatwouldscullydo · 21/01/2022 09:01

Sadlywhatwouldscullydo. That is the point of which their identities rest on. Being free to define any word as they wish to, whether it is woman, man, any word they want to adapt to their individual desire

But they don't define it even with the scope of being able to re define it any way they want 🤣

You can always tell when people have been forced to go " off script" there's a certain look of panic and desperation for reassurance from the presbeters or the crowd. I mean even found myself wondering if the audience were clapping to show their agreement, whether they were clapping to enjoy them to keep going for entertainment purposes or whether it was just to painful at that point to keep watching so it created a distraction.

NotBadConsidering · 21/01/2022 09:04

Agreed. The Loudoun rape is a good example of the evil. Not only the evil of the rapist, the profile of whom the judge described as one of the most disturbing things they’d ever read, but the evil of the silence from the Left around reporting the events. They KNOW what happened and say nothing. Same as the Wi Spa. The Guardian KNOWS what happened and didn’t retract their article claiming otherwise.

They KNOW and say nothing. Why is the right wing political commentator the bad guy for bringing that to mainstream attention? The Left, politically and media wise have completely ignored a rapist raping two girls because of the ideology was not able to be challenged openly. Who’s evil here?

Lacaola · 21/01/2022 09:10

I disagree with Matt Walsh on his views on abortion but he has been consistently brilliant in this issue for a very long time. He is married and has daughters. I think he does care. I agree with every word he said on the chat show and in his follow up. It’s depressing to hear the audience clap this absolute drivel.

As he says, he stands in the truth. It’s important to remember that.

OhHolyJesus · 21/01/2022 09:13

Thoughts from Walsh after the Dr Phil appearance.

twitter.com/mattwalshblog/status/1484268313815441418?s=21

nolongersurprised · 21/01/2022 09:15

Imagine being that father:

  1. your daughter is anally raped by in boy in a skirt in the girls’ bathrooms.
  2. the school says they’ll deal with it “in house” and no police, ambulance are called. You involve police yourself.
  3. you attend a school board meeting where gender neutral bathrooms are discussed and promoted and are told that no reports of misconduct have occurred
  4. when you dispute this you are called a bigot and when you shout a bit you are arrested. Pictures of your stomach falling out of your clothes are taken while you are dragged on the floor by officers and these are pictures circulated on line as an example of a right wing bigot
  5. you are vilified in your community and your business suffers
  6. newspaper articles say your daughter is a liar
  7. when your daughter’s attacker is convicted of raping your daughter said newspapers don’t issue an apology.

Evil indeed.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 21/01/2022 09:18

Womanhood is not mine to define, I just want you to call me a woman, cos that is what I am, but actually no, I am not, I am summink summink!

And they clapped that crap?

Appropriate womanhood got silence, actually a single clap. And the TW got quite aggressive, until remembering 'herself'!

What a load of bollock, real and facsimile!

ScreamingMeMe · 21/01/2022 09:23

This thread compliments the other current one about whether left leaning parties are more seen as morally good...

nolongersurprised · 21/01/2022 09:34

This thread compliments the other current one about whether left leaning parties are more seen as morally good...

Good point.

I’ve often heard people lament that men, fathers aren’t engaging with how harmful gender ideology is to women, girls and children.

And then when a father does (bravely) leap into it and is subjected to abuse as a result people say - not you.

Well, I don’t see the wokebros standing against trans activism.

NotBadConsidering · 21/01/2022 09:48

@nolongersurprised

Imagine being that father: 1) your daughter is anally raped by in boy in a skirt in the girls’ bathrooms. 2) the school says they’ll deal with it “in house” and no police, ambulance are called. You involve police yourself. 3) you attend a school board meeting where gender neutral bathrooms are discussed and promoted and are told that no reports of misconduct have occurred 4) when you dispute this you are called a bigot and when you shout a bit you are arrested. Pictures of your stomach falling out of your clothes are taken while you are dragged on the floor by officers and these are pictures circulated on line as an example of a right wing bigot 5) you are vilified in your community and your business suffers 6) newspaper articles say your daughter is a liar 7) when your daughter’s attacker is convicted of raping your daughter said newspapers don’t issue an apology.

Evil indeed.

And then a man brings it to wider attention on a TV show with a huge audience, leading to a University professor dismissing it and say she didn’t think it was a safety issue, but we shouldn’t give him any credit because he’s previously said other stuff that is not in line with the “correct” way of thinking 🙄.

To those who don’t like Walsh and therefore dismiss what he’s done here, what is more important to you?

That Walsh keeps or is kept quiet, isn’t given a platform for his questionable other views but it means fewer people know about what happened in Loudoun County? Or

That Walsh gets some praise for being right on this even if he’s not on other things, but it’s worth it because more people are now aware of that awful event?

Phobiaphobic · 21/01/2022 09:54

@NotBadConsidering

CheeseMmmm

You have fallen into the exact same trap that the education board at the Loudoun County school where a male raped two girls. You’ve looked at who is speaking, and focused on their background, rather than listening to what they are saying. The concerns of parents, include the father of one of the victims, were dismissed because of the perception of what they were motivated by. As a result, no one listened, concerns were ignored and another girl was a victim.

It doesn’t matter what Matt Walsh has said in the past, or where his thoughts on other matters lie, on this he is correct. He went in front of a massive audience, calmly asked basic questions like “what is a woman?”, showed up the ideology for all it is and even got a professor to say, just moments after talking about the rape of a girl, that “it’s not a safety issue”:

mobile.twitter.com/mattwalshblog/status/1483925582274564097?s=10

For what it’s worth I believe he cares about this issue, I don’t think being conservative on other issues means you can’t, and it’s ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

Hard agree.
Kotatsu · 21/01/2022 09:56

I also wish I knew what it was that possess people to go onto a TV show completely unprepared and unable to define their terms.

He thought he was prepared - he tried the - "Oh, it's sexual organs/reproduction - what if someone's had them removed/doesn't want to have kids" line, as if that was a massive gotcha - which obviously it isn't. If you had a uterus to remove then YOU HAD A UTERUS

Kotatsu · 21/01/2022 09:58

AAAAnd one more thing.

Women are endlessly told that we'll get to women's issues once this bigger injustice is rectified (yes, I did watch that movie about Dagenham recently), we're just doing the same thing here - we'll take this person's support on this issue, and then work on other issues once this one is solved.

DoubleTweenQueen · 21/01/2022 10:07

Developments:
twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1484268313815441418

Kotatsu · 21/01/2022 10:18

Jesus - well, that pulled no punches..

Mind you, given his opinions he should probably take some of his own advice too.........

NotBadConsidering · 21/01/2022 10:20

[quote DoubleTweenQueen]Developments:
twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1484268313815441418[/quote]
That’s in the OP

DoubleTweenQueen · 21/01/2022 10:25

Oh yes! I thought it was simply the tv show discussion :)

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 21/01/2022 10:59

@nolongersurprised and @NotBadConsidering make important points about that Loudon County father.

I worry about that - he was desperate for someone to hear his daughter, and was dismissed by the school and the media - what about his community?

If he has support from other parents then things can escalate into civil unrest quickly. If he doesn't have local support, well, that way madness lies.

My impression is that MW has sympathy for the dad and is using his platform to add some sunlight to an unjust situation. MW benefits with clicks and attention, but he's got a point - a civilised society would not be so casual with the safety of girls.

I hope that man and his family are doing ok.

beastlyslumber · 21/01/2022 11:01

Wow that was so refreshing to see!

I agree - the people he's talking to there (i.e. the TRAs on the show with him) are bad people who don't care about the harm they cause. I love what he said for its clarity, simplicity and truth.

Appledrop · 21/01/2022 11:22

That was great to watch, go Matt, not that I agree with everything he stands for but on this he was right on point. Also had a browse at his wall and am sure I saw a post stating that M&M’s are apparently getting a new look to become more ‘inclusive’?