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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

So what are we up to?

183 replies

FlyingOink · 15/01/2022 22:03

I've lost track.

So far some or all of us are (in no order):

  • receiving illicit funds from fundamentalists in the US
  • handing out lesbian wives (timeshare? Full-time?)
  • turning the UK into T*rf Island
  • taking over both Twitter and Mumsnet despite there being only six of us
  • brigading online surveys
  • creating fear through the use of stickers and/or ribbons
  • creating anger through the use of hoodies and billboards
  • all elderly
  • all middle aged
  • all middle-class
  • all "Karens"
  • but there's only six of us

I've missed loads, does anyone want to add some more? I feel we should keep a list going.

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PaleGreenGhost · 16/01/2022 10:19

How do I know which of the six feminist mumsnetters I am? Or can I just identify with whoever is being the most cleverest?

hallouminatus · 16/01/2022 10:20

sui support

Helleofabore · 16/01/2022 10:32

It gives a whole new meaning to posters who say things like ‘I am off to organize my sock drawer’ .

That must mean we are going off-piste (maybe we are also in the liquor cupboard?)

NitroNine · 16/01/2022 10:44

@foxgoosefinch
“Admonitio!” is very clearly Telling Someone Off & frankly I don’t know how you could be so harsh & cruel when we ALL know the rules say that you have to Be Kind. (I also misread “Prolepsis!” & involuntarily clenched bits of me I hadn’t realised I could clench. Thanks for that Hmm )

@Enough4me
Apparently we’re not allowed to be witches. Because they’re “inherently queer”. This ahistorical (& crashingly discriminatory to present-day Wiccans & other witches) take actually gained traction in TRA circles after JKR posted the photo of her in the “this witch won’t burn” (I think I have the wording slightly wrong, sorry) t-shirt.

On which note, we put up stickers (& sometimes posters or even billboards) or leave fliers that make trans people “unsafe” by giving the dictionary definition of woman/presenting arguments for keeping prisons single sex/saying “I ❤️ JKR”. These are sometimes also “literal violence”.

Bortles · 16/01/2022 10:48

We are represented by a purely grey flag?

JDaytona · 16/01/2022 10:51

I was told on Twitter that my opinion is literally violence and I'm responsible for the suicides of children, by suggesting that male bodied rapists should not be housed in female prisons.

Helleofabore · 16/01/2022 10:57

Oh. We’ve been told on MN plenty that we are responsible for the violence against trans people because we won’t STFU.

I remember being told I had to personally take responsibility for those injured at the WiSpa protest. It was the feminists fault and of course, it was the original woman who complained’s fault most of all. She should never have posted that video of her complaint being ignored and her being ‘educated’ by ‘the man’.

Alekto · 16/01/2022 11:10

@Bortles

We are represented by a purely grey flag?

Isn't that for people who identify as having a gender assigned at birth and agree with which gender the assigner assigned them?

VaddaABeetch · 16/01/2022 11:12

@TurquoiseBaubles I’m also in Ireland.

I can’t think for myself & import west Brit feminism. Irish women apparently have a long history of being stupid.

FlyingOink · 16/01/2022 12:15

Which one of the six am I? Is it like when you have to get people into groups and you count 1,2,3 and then you realise you're in the same group as bloody Gary again?
I identify as being person number three.

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Cattenberg · 16/01/2022 12:37

We’re racist, anti-Semitic, sexist, homophobic, far-right, Brexit-voting anti-vaxxers.

We don’t realise that DSD’s exist.

We don’t believe that trans people exist, but we want to eliminate them.

We suffer from “brain rot”.

We believe in a “magical gender essence”, that persists in a person even after they’ve transitioned.

It’s Mumsnet’s fault that trans women in Brazil have been murdered by men. Presumably because FWR is full of Brazilian men and we made them do it.

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 16/01/2022 13:00

We’re racist, anti-Semitic, sexist, homophobic, far-right, Brexit-voting anti-vaxxers.

Even those of us who are black / Jewish / lesbian / not from the UK / triple-jabbed / lifelong Labour voters.

FlyingOink · 16/01/2022 13:11

If we're full-on fascist at least we'll have cool boots, right?
I've never seen a fascist in Crocs.

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NitroNine · 16/01/2022 13:27

Probably we won’t be allowed Doc Martens Because Reasons Flying Oink. But they will NEVER take my sparkly DMs from me, drat them all!

(Incidentally, the Doc Martens website has a blogpost that opens with “It is impossible to recount the history of Dr. Martens without reference to Skinheads” - & then doesn’t address Those Skinheads. You know, the ones everyone is actually thinking of. Which looks so so much worse than acknowledging than the issues of the 1970s & 80s.)

QueenSue · 16/01/2022 13:37

Isn't it amazing that only six people are capable of turning the UK into T*rf Island?

FlyingOink · 16/01/2022 13:38

From what I know there were different types of skinheads though? The ones into ska etc weren't racist, the ones into Oi were? I'm oversimplifying obviously.
Not DMs please though, they're murder to break in.

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NitroNine · 16/01/2022 15:52

Flying Oink
Oh yes, absolutely “skinhead” isn’t synonymous with “racist” - I just think it was pretty wretched not to address the reality of the style being… taken over (colonised, even?) by a group with a particular agenda. No mention at all, as if “skinhead” were only ever an innocent fashion statement. It’s not as if they were having to address being official providers of the unofficial Neo Nazi uniform - failure to address it is what looks poor; & is a missed opportunity to draw that distinction between groups of skinheads.

I will write you a note to excuse you Doc Martens. They are a nightmare to break in, but so awesome once broken. Don’t tell anyone, but I suspect FWR might be more about the decent walking boots… I was going to suggest hi-top trainers as pseudo-boots; but the ones I own are glittery & have unicorns on. Probably not fascism-approved. Mein Kampf has a sad lack of unicorns (& indeed glitter) after all.

LilithOfEden · 16/01/2022 16:10

We're all Shroedinger's kink shamers: we've only ever experienced vanilla sex, done to us whilst we've laid back, eyes tightly shut, clutching our pearls and praying to the Evangelical God Almighty to smite transpeople with his massive wonga; but at the same time, we are obsessed with genitals and jealous of stunning trans women and their fab bodies and designer "vaginas".

Abunchofyellowroses · 16/01/2022 16:25

Hello to all “6” of you.

I think opposing some “authentic selves” may have been something I have been charged with. Oh, and obviously we haven’t been a) kind or b) yeah, kind.

It may have been suggested that I was overly interested in genitals and that makes me not just keen to safeguard women and children but a bit evil.

Being shrill takes up a lot of time too.

Abunchofyellowroses · 16/01/2022 16:27

And saying “Sex” instead of gender is rude.
Apparently.

Snugglepumpkin · 16/01/2022 16:27

Nobody here is 'fabulous' or 'stunning' or knows how to woman properly because we are doing it all wrong.

We don't even know what a woman is; we get that wrong too thinking it's based in reality.

Abunchofyellowroses · 16/01/2022 16:32

Of course we are wrong to be angry with political parties which want to help women but can’t say the word “women” in case in affects the menz and makes them sad.

Artichokeleaves · 16/01/2022 16:34

All of us are 'cis' (without checking, we just Are) at the same time we're all TM in denial because women are compliant and nice and don't do things like think for themselves and argue back, and all agender so in actual fact Trans. But not.

Those of us who are homosexual are all homophobic.

We're all White (even those of us who aren't) and All Middle Class (even those of us who aren't) and all tits are saggy. (Even if they aren't).

We're a sleeper cell of Regan funded nuns (I never have worked out wtaf that one was all about) while at the same time being just a bunch of silly mummies no one takes any notice of.

Its quite funny really. Shroedinger's Woman. She's assumed to be anything you need her to be for you in the moment.

Which is, in itself, the whole reason for the existence of the entire relationships board and FWR. Woman: a useful prop in your life.

Helleofabore · 16/01/2022 16:44

I loved it the other day when a poster moved from ‘you are all pear clutchers and prudes’ because you don’t realize that everyone is into kink, don’t you know? Here is a really biased study telling you all.

To

You clearly all have dirty minds if you look at that photo and think that!!!

I mean the same poster within a page.

I say, keep on posting. I mean the huge number of lurkers on these threads learn to pick the inconsistencies very quickly and they learn the posting patterns of us all. The eye rolls that must happen when people read those manipulative flip flops.

FlyingOink · 16/01/2022 16:45

Those of us who are homosexual are all homophobic. Yes and doubly TM in denial!

Nobody here is 'fabulous' or 'stunning' or knows how to woman properly because we are doing it all wrong. Because of this - funnily enough, homophobes have told me I've been womaning wrong my whole life, and that I'm trying to be a man too. Smile

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