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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Kellie Jay on Talk Radio with James Max

442 replies

Mollyollydolly · 29/12/2021 12:32

Worth a watch. How much do men hate women who say 'no'. When speaking the truth is a revolutionary act.

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hesaidshesaidtheysaid · 30/12/2021 09:07

@NotBadConsidering
And Posie didn’t say being gay is exclusively a choice, she said you’re either born gay or some people like Sheila Jeffries, who she mentioned by name, feel you can choose. She was the opposite of being homophobic, because she respects the opinions of those like Jeffries.

I pointed this fact out last night to India Willoughby on twitter as they had misquoted Posie as saying being gay is a choice, I corrected India that Posie had said 'some' people. I was then accused of being homophobic by India and subsequently blocked.
How can this conversation moved forward if the stance of so many is to accuse people of being 'phobic then blocked from further discussion?!

ArabellaScott · 30/12/2021 09:16

Some people don't want the discussion to move forward. They want women to shut up and go away.

PronounssheRa · 30/12/2021 09:25

According to twitter Debbie Hayton is on this AM.

In other news mimmybirthingparent isn't happy with James, mimmy also believes James is using this topic to raise his own profile. mobile.twitter.com/mimmymum/status/1476482024705867776

ArabellaScott · 30/12/2021 09:37

Oh joy! James Max is the gift that keeps on giving!

ArabellaScott · 30/12/2021 09:41
  • I completely agree with Mimmymum that he is using the issue to increase his audience. As are TalkRadio, I see they've pinned Posie's interview on Twitter.

Saying the quiet part out loud, eh?

Has India been on yet?

EarthSight · 30/12/2021 09:47

[quote PronounssheRa]According to twitter Debbie Hayton is on this AM.

In other news mimmybirthingparent isn't happy with James, mimmy also believes James is using this topic to raise his own profile. mobile.twitter.com/mimmymum/status/1476482024705867776[/quote]
Yes I think that too @PronounssheRa

I don't think he cares about either side. It's simply entertaining debate fodder to him where he gets to talk down to women and get clicks for it.

Menofsteel · 30/12/2021 09:47

I loved every second of this. I adore Kellie. When I was raped I reached out to Standing for Women and she was emailing me for a while. When I met her in person she held me (both crying) and she said something that I will never forget. She said, “women like you are always on my mind. If you weren’t, why would I fucking bother?” Then all 4 foot 11 of her strutted off like she owned the place 🤣. Same vibe on the interview. Utter strength and dignity from her. He came across like a tired child arguing about being told it’s bedtime.

PronounssheRa · 30/12/2021 09:48

I completely agree with Mimmymum that he is using the issue to increase his audience. As are TalkRadio, I see they've pinned Posie's interview on Twitter.

I agree with mimmy too, which begs the question which one of us needs to be denounced and cancelled 😆

The pinned tweet does James no favours, like they are trolling him.

EarthSight · 30/12/2021 09:52

@tinyrebel

That isn't really Posie' opinion - it's what she's gathered from listening to a variety of lesbians.

Read up on political lesbianism and what Julie Binder has to say on the matter of choice.

Some lesbians don't like people saying they were born gay as it makes it sound like it's a disease, something bad that they can't help, and therefore we must be sympathetic to them based on that alone.

Instead some gay and lesbian people like to say they choose their life as they find it more life-affirming and don't see anything wrong with choosing to be homosexual.

EarthSight · 30/12/2021 09:53

Julie Bindel*

HipTightOnions · 30/12/2021 10:00

I just caught the very end of this morning's segment.

(Well done Ulrika.)

Did anyone hear the rest?

EarthSight · 30/12/2021 10:19

It's trending on Twitter in the United Kingdom right now. Can anyone else see that?

JellySaurus · 30/12/2021 10:34

He said something along the lines of "If your secure in yourself, like I know that I'm a man, how can you understand how people who don't feel that way are in their heads?" He may even have said "You're not in their heads". Why didn't Posy reply "How can men know they're women? They're not in women's heads or bodies."? It's an obvious discrepancy.

Trans people are always saying "You don't know what it's like to be us!" Well they don't know what it's like to be us, either. Or to be them, in the case of TM.

catzwhiskas · 30/12/2021 10:52

Fantastic clear facts from KellieJay. Handled every idiotic point exceptionally well. I would like her to say that we don’t change laws on the basis of feelings, and what about our discomfort etc. But this deserves five gold stars.

EarthSight · 30/12/2021 10:52

@JellySaurus

He said something along the lines of "If your secure in yourself, like I know that I'm a man, how can you understand how people who don't feel that way are in their heads?" He may even have said "You're not in their heads". Why didn't Posy reply "How can men know they're women? They're not in women's heads or bodies."? It's an obvious discrepancy.

Trans people are always saying "You don't know what it's like to be us!" Well they don't know what it's like to be us, either. Or to be them, in the case of TM.

Very true.
yestheyhavethesamedad · 30/12/2021 11:01

@ArabellaScott Don't think India has been on ,but they have been tweeting about how james annihilated Posie , and showed her up completely and disproved every one of her points , of course India had to lie about what was said to justify their claims 🙄

Helleofabore · 30/12/2021 11:06

He certainly talked a lot with DH. In fact, I think he talked more than he let them talk. But maybe that was the cropping on the clip on twitter.

While I don’t agree with debbieinbirmingham on everything, they have been consistent and they do make sure the message about two sexes gets across.

However, that Max fella is a bellend and needs to apologise to KJK. What he said to her was nasty and very unprofessional as an interviewer. All because he ‘felt uncomfortable’ in the truth.

He still hasn’t admitted his trivialisation of women’s need for single sex spaces as being the same as ‘club’ membership.

FFS he told DH that he, Max, didn’t quite think DH had correctly positioned the trans activists’ demands? So… even a trans right activist for how many years has not got it right in that arrogant-arse-who -obviously-knows-better-than- everyone’s eyes.

WTAF?

Helleofabore · 30/12/2021 11:10

Maybe James Max read Willoughby’s tweets and decided that they would be a liability even for him. He would not have wanted the invitation to see what a fabricated male cervix looked like.

Helleofabore · 30/12/2021 11:11

Fabricated = made or created

Grin
Floisme · 30/12/2021 11:13

He still hasn’t admitted his trivialisation of women’s need for single sex spaces as being the same as ‘club’ membership.
I thought that was the most telling moment of the interview. And, to be fair to Max, I don't think he's the only man who believes this.

NotBadConsidering · 30/12/2021 11:14

[quote PronounssheRa]According to twitter Debbie Hayton is on this AM.

In other news mimmybirthingparent isn't happy with James, mimmy also believes James is using this topic to raise his own profile. mobile.twitter.com/mimmymum/status/1476482024705867776[/quote]
Always surprised by how few likes Helen gets for her tweets given she purportedly has 16k followers Hmm.

ArabellaScott · 30/12/2021 11:21

[quote yestheyhavethesamedad]@ArabellaScott Don't think India has been on ,but they have been tweeting about how james annihilated Posie , and showed her up completely and disproved every one of her points , of course India had to lie about what was said to justify their claims 🙄[/quote]
Fab. Do keep sharing the wisdom and insight of James Max, India, so everyone can see/hear him 'annihilating' Posie. Grin

ArabellaScott · 30/12/2021 11:25

mobile.twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1476487354189856769

'If you are not something ... then you ... or you don't know something .. then you probably don't know much about it'

No shit, James.

ArabellaScott · 30/12/2021 11:27

'if any man can say I am a woman, you've got to let me in, then women's boundaries become meaningless.'

100% agree, Debbie.

ArabellaScott · 30/12/2021 11:29

'why has this become so toxic' says James Max, who spent yesterday hearing from women why his sexist, aggressive, patronising schtick was something they didn't really like listening to very much.