Kellie Jay on Talk Radio with James Max

[Mollyollydolly]

Worth a watch. How much do men hate women who say 'no'. When speaking the truth is a revolutionary act.

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KJ was quite clear in her assertion that she understood there were two routes to homosexuality and she cited Sheila Jeffrey’s who has indeed written about political lesbianism and choosing homosexuality as a woman.

She did cite Sheila Jeffries

2.47

JM: Can you be born gay?

KJK: I think that there are two routes to homosexuality according to someone like Sheila Jeffries, you can either be born gay or you can choose to be gay.

JM: You can choose to be gay?

KJK: Well, yes, that's according to people who have (JM cuts in, 'really?') written about it, yeah.

JM: Right

KJK: I mean you'd probably have to survey the entire population of gay people, I certainly know some gay people who don't think they were born gay and I know plenty that do.

JM: Right. Okay - that's interesting.

@NancyDrawed

Thanks Mollyollydolly for posting this, one of the posters on Twitter said she'd never have thought PP v Harrop would be bettered, but that this one just takes the edge!

Men really do not like to be told no by strong, attractive women, do they? And she was so very calm and direct in her rebuttals.

I do like to transcribe things, this stood out to me (5.49 ish):

JM:I am slightly staggered by your views on the basis that, er, mayb..

KJK: That biological sex exists?! You're staggered by that view?

JM: Maybe I may have to change my mind - maybe it was right that if you take those views, you should be cancelled.

KJK: Wow. You're on Talk Radio, right?

JM: Yes.

KJK: Okay. And you think people should be cancelled for having the view that biological sex is real.

JM: (butting in) No, I don't. I don't think that people should be cancelled and I would like people to have different views, but I find it staggering that you would want to have this discrimination perpetrated against people who are born different to you

KJK: No. I want MEN out of women's spaces. That's not born different, that's a biological fact, and that biological fact determines whether somebody is a risk to women.

Make up your mind James - 'you should be cancelled' two seconds later 'I don't think that people should be cancelled'

That's an awesome username! 👏👏👏

Can someone explain the relevance of the ‘born gay’ question to me? I don’t get why it was asked. Being gay is a sexuality, feeling as though you were born in the wrong body isn’t. Why are they comparable?

It's such a shame I missed this on Good Morning Britain a while back, did anybody watch it:

Posie Parker v India Willoughby

Political lesbianism is absolutely a known choice, and as far as I recall, Julie Bindel amongst many others made this decision.

It's not a very popular view now.

Also, that was exquisite.
Posie seems to have a gift for making arses out of arses.
A true gift.

Thank you so much for sharing this! Was just watching and when DD(15) heard it she said “oh I just saw this on twitter, was about to watch it”. Perfection.

We saw a woman in Waitrose earlier wearing an adult human female hoodie, so I popped over and said “I like your jumper!”. She said she has loads of them, bags, t shirts etc too and I said “good for you”. DD had been worried about wearing her Harry Potter Xmas scarf out in public in case she got any abuse for it . I told her the idiots who want to cancel JKR wouldn’t have the balls to say anything to her in real life, they’re just keyboard warriors. The real strength is in the people who choose not to be silenced, like the woman in Waitrose!

Adding this bit of transcript, because it's fab.

JM: '...Okay, so you don’t think that you could be born female but in fact in terms of how you operate you are a man?’
KJK: ‘No, I think you can probably be born any sex and behave in any way, and that doesn’t really change your biological structure.’
JM: ‘But isn’t that because you are certain in who you are, in the sense that I’m pretty certain on who I am, and therefore we can come at this subject with the knowledge and experience that we have but you can never be in the body and the mind and the brain of somebody else and in fact by saying the things you’re saying it’s pretty hateful, pretty disturbing and pretty unpleasant’

So, how can you be in the wrong body, then James? Make up your mind!

I’ve never heard of James Max before but he came across as a complete uninformed twat. KJ wiped the floor with him.

OMG James Max - he's the one off The Apprentice who was selling the Fleecy Wolf Jacket on the QVC task!

Oh that wolf jacket man should have fallen so low.

@BaronessWrongCrowdRex

I’ve never heard of James Max before but he came across as a complete uninformed twat. KJ wiped the floor with him.

Sums it up nicely 👍

Posie was magnificent. I don't always agree with her but I do admire her.

Isn't this the same radio station that Julia Hartley-Brewer is on? I imagine she might have some comment to make.

There are so many good bits..

1.04

KJK: I don't think any man can ever become a woman, no.

JM: So, then, there's the problem, isn't it?

KJK: What? Not lying?

JM: Well, it's not a question of not lying, it's a question of not necessarily understanding - that somebody can be born in somebody else's body. In the sense that you can be born physically a man or a woman, but inside you may be - and it has been recognised - that you might yourself an opposing sex in terms of how your brain works. Are you saying that that person should be discriminated against for the rest of their life because of the physicality of it?

KJK: No, I'm saying that what you have said there is absolute nonsense. There's no way that you can be...you ARE your body, there is no separation between your biological sex.

JM: No, no I'm sorry. I'm afraid that's wrong.

KJK: No (shakes head and laughs). In what possible way would the DNA of a human build all the cells one sex, except a tiny little bit of a brain that would be a different sex?

JM: Well, that's not necessarily... I mean, are you an expert in this?

Oh, that was glorious! Well done KJ

This reply made me laugh

Kellie Jay was brilliant. So clear and calm and not backing down or letting him sidetrack her.

What seemed strangest to me is being 'staggered' by the perfectly normal, factual view that people can't change sex. He must remember a time when nobody at all thought that men could really become with it. It might be understandable for a young teen in a 'woke' social bubble to be surprised that not everyone agrees with trans ideology, but a man his age? I wonder how much of it was performative.

I also caught the error where he asserted that you can only really know what's going on inside your own mind, not other people's. This is true. But yet some male people apparently know enough about the minds of all women to know that they have a womanly mind and not a man's one? How on earth could they know that?

What seemed strangest to me is being 'staggered' by the perfectly normal, factual view that people can't change sex. He must remember a time when nobody at all thought that men could really become with it. It might be understandable for a young teen in a 'woke' social bubble to be surprised that not everyone agrees with trans ideology, but a man his age? I wonder how much of it was performative.

Yes. It was very 'old man struggles to appear relevant' wasn't it?

I do wonder with these people when they are so happy to spout shit like this what else they say that they don't believe. I mean do they really deep down harbour racist/homophobic views but know the 'right things' to say?

It does seem to me that the reason this has traction despite being obvious bullshit is that for many people it must just be something else they need to pay lip service to.

God, the “right, okay” when he had no argument but wanted to make Posie look deranged the patronising .

@WalkOnGildedSplinters

God, the “right, okay” when he had no argument but wanted to make Posie look deranged the patronising **.

So odd to be so smug when one has so little to be smug about!

That was hilarious.

This absolute twat thinks you have to be an expert to know that you can't grow male DNA around a female brain!!

🤣🤣🤣

He's still going .. think this meltdown could last for days .. seen it so many times before on twitter. He'll go on a mass block rampage in a few hours time ..

Staggered!!

He's staggered that sex exists.

Dear God. Wanker doesn't even cover it.

Also, if I hear one more bloke say 'it's complicated'.

It's only complicated when you are used to, and want to, give men anything they demand and suddenly it makes you look like a right misogynistic, nasty twat.

No, he's staggered because he knows he lost.

What's the expression?.... 'Oh to have the confidence of a mediocre man'.

We've now reached the point where he's about to call KJ a Nazi .. utter bellend.