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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

"What are your pronouns?" Best response for a 14 yo?

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RhymesWithOrange · 24/12/2021 08:08

DD is as well informed as I can manage on pronoun nonsense but we're both stumped for the best response if a friend asks her "what are your pronouns?"

Any advice on challenging/deflecting? With close friends she jokes (she's identified as a Samsung refrigerator, pronouns ice/tray, for a while now) but with people she knows less well it's harder to pull off.

Thank you Smile

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TinyRebel · 29/12/2021 08:42

My 14 year old would just laugh and say something along the lines of "I'm not a pronoun person" (that's what she calls the gender woo lot) - but then she doesn't really give a toss.

ArabellaScott · 29/12/2021 08:48

Thank you, Roaring, for that eloquent and spot on post.

And I think, Delirium, that a redacted silence is surely an oxymoron and negates itself, hence me sticking to yr usual name is correct?

MagpiePi · 29/12/2021 09:44

[quote ItIsntWhatYouThinkItIs]@barleybadminton Marriage isn't a feminist issue. It isn't a patriachal issue. It is a LEGAL issue. It is about legal recognition and protection.

It's simple politeness, unless you want your kid to grow up to be the kind of obnoxious entitled brat

Wow. I think you are the one who sounds like an obnoxious entitled brat here. If someone tells you their name, you address them as their name. If someone says their name is Mary, you would address them as Mary. Nothing else is needed, is there. Pronouns are superfluous and unnecessary.[/quote]
...and if their name is Mary, they can stil be a man. And that is fine. Having a traditionally female name doesn't magically make you female.

RhymesWithOrange · 29/12/2021 11:30

@TinyRebel

My 14 year old would just laugh and say something along the lines of "I'm not a pronoun person" (that's what she calls the gender woo lot) - but then she doesn't really give a toss.

This is perfect. Akin to saying "I don't believe in that nonsense" if someone asks you your star sign.

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Deliriumoftheendless · 29/12/2021 12:31

@ArabellaScott

Thank you, Roaring, for that eloquent and spot on post.

And I think, Delirium, that a redacted silence is surely an oxymoron and negates itself, hence me sticking to yr usual name is correct?

I’m not applying logic to myself these days- it’s so old fashioned apparently - so I will also be pronouncing it “throat-wobbler mangrove” 😏
Deliriumoftheendless · 29/12/2021 12:31

I’m also not sure that’s the emoji I was looking for 😂

ErrolTheDragon · 29/12/2021 12:44

If your colleagues correct you or object, see how convincing they find the "it's my choice" argument. And when it gets back to your male colleague - which such strange behaviour inevitably well - tell him about how you get to choose. And he'll tell you that's absolute bullshit, since it plainly clearly is

Choosing to use pronouns contrary to the usual centuries-old convention, ie aligned with sex, would indeed be strange behaviour and bullshit.

We may of course choose to accept other peoples 'strange behaviours' as a courtesy.

MondayYogurt · 29/12/2021 14:11

There are many trans people not 'out' yet and forcing them to answer this question would result in either making them lie/misgender themselves or making them come out.

Perhaps her friend needs to understand that demanding people identify themselves is not in keeping with the be kind aesthetic.

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