Gaun yersel' JKR!

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Another post from our favourite feminist

Love John Boyne - he’s been on the receiving end of TRAs as well.

Ian Collins was great in that interview. Was polite but managed to allow her to show herself as arrogant, smug and bonkers. The constant drinking from her mug was so telling. Body language dictates that hiding your mouth means you're not quite believing in what you're saying.

I wish they'd interview these people more often. They tell on themselves so quickly.

Look at the interview from the basis you have no idea what is going on

Yes it was the kind of interview that had to be entry-level stuff really - note he had to stop to have it explained to listeners what 'cis' is. He made the call his audience wouldn't have a clue, which is interesting in itself.

Collins seemed very clued up on the issues though. He was blunt, somewhat antagonistic, but seemed driven by wanting to get to the truth of the matter rather than impose his opinion.

To be fair, I am not sure that he could have got any more questions in. He was simply responding to her incessant stream of words.

Ok niggle point.
Re the word sexual?
Did I miss additional allegations with regard to JD?
My understanding was that the allegations by the newspaper were about physical assault and verbal abuse?

Have there been addition allegations or was that part of the original allegation by exe?

[quote nauticant](Who? Never heard of him, anyway.)

Eoin Higgins is this person:

ovarit.com/o/GenderCritical/48043/ticked-off-at-these-left-wing-men-who-talk-over-women/b563ac60-b718-4cde-ad13-f20655d3d293[/quote]
I'm still none the wiser as to who he is, what he does for a living, or why he is notable enough for a blue tick. Can just about anybody get a blue tick these days?

He's an activist-journalist. They're the bunch who spotted how much Trump was able to do with fake news and thought "we'll have a bit of that action".

@Babdoc

He missed so many open goals though. Why didn't he ask her, if, as a lesbian, she would sleep with a transbian, and if not, what she had against a "female penis"? Why didn't he press her on whether it was acceptable to force a rape victim to address her rapist as "she" in court? Why did he meekly accept her assertion that no transwoman was ever a sex offender, when we have evidence to the contrary? Why didn't he ask her why women should not be allowed single sex spaces, thus excluding many (such as Muslims and Orthodox Jews) from public life? Why didn't he insist on her producing a single transphobic statement by JKR? And keep pushing?

I agree there were lots of questions he could have asked, without being inappropriate.

The biggest one, should have been what exactly is it that J. K. Rowling has said that is so offensive??

I would like him to have read out what she said about trans people, how she has trans friends, etc. Then ask that woman whether she agrees with it or not.

And really nail down what it is that JKR has said that is so wrong. This sweeping generalisation that she's transphobic has to be addressed.

Because I want the world to hear that saying transwomen are not literally women, and this is why it matters, is considered so heinous.

The 'JKR is transphobic but I haven't actually read what she wrote' crowd always (unfortunately) bring to mind Dr Jesson v Arlene Foster and his 'defence' that loads of people online were saying what he posted on twitter, so he honestly thought it must be true.

[quote Helleofabore]Had anyone posted this interview yet from talkradio with Kaitie Welch author doing her stuff making everyone see the dissonance? Ian Collins did a great job of bringing out her best side.

twitter.com/talkradio/status/1471186082792235012?s=21[/quote]
It doesn’t appear to be there any more - does anyone know where I could find this, please?

I’m partial to a bit of cognitive dissonance.

It is still working for me francesca. Hopefully you will get it to work.

Would somebody mind dming me a code for Ovarit? I don't use the cesspit that is twitter.

The biggest one, should have been what exactly is it that J. K. Rowling has said that is so offensive??

To an extent he did try, and got further than most by making the point (more than once iirc?) that her blog was not transphobic - you don't usually get anyone going back to that as a reference, let alone making clear it's not what its critics think it is.

These conversations move at such a fast pace though - and the anti JKR guest is usually so emotional and all over the place - it's hard to stay on track.

@BraveBananaBadge

The biggest one, should have been what exactly is it that J. K. Rowling has said that is so offensive??

To an extent he did try, and got further than most by making the point (more than once iirc?) that her blog was not transphobic - you don't usually get anyone going back to that as a reference, let alone making clear it's not what its critics think it is.

These conversations move at such a fast pace though - and the anti JKR guest is usually so emotional and all over the place - it's hard to stay on track.

“Emotional and all over the place” - yes, because they’re panicking as they realise they have nothing to say but they’re desperate to maintain their view of themselves as so very “liberal”. I have witnessed a very clever person in exactly this position and it was clear that she actually had no idea what to say. Embarrassing to witness, and made me question her intelligence and, crucially, her integrity.

Yes, it just goes to show how their mangling of the language is completely unworkable in practice really Francesca.

The take away from the Talk Radio interview was the priceless "I'd assume [you're a man] but I'm not making any assumptions". The way they want things to be just cannot stand.

(OT @SolasAnla re:Depp
The original UK trial had portions held without media reporting where sexual assault allegations were made. One allegation, was on the timeline of the incidents that included Depp's severed finger.
(Court transcripts for the public portion still online on Nick Wallis' site afaik www.nickwallis.com/depp-trial )

@ThrowawayBerna

Thanks, I dont tend to follow celebrity stuff in great detail.
I expect that it was used as guilt by association but had not heard the term associated with him before.

The DM explaining the background clearly for those who aren't up to speed and supporting JK.

Some great comments too.

I didn't know she had been so supportive of Johnny Depp but at the end of the day she is strong and loyal to her friends and not joining in with cancel culture.

JK Rowling's not taking their attempt to cancel her lying down
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That's good from the DM. I didn't know some of the details there, like the extent of her support for Depp. Nor the comment from Stephen Fry - don't know how that passed me by. A cool head - good on him.

In contrast to the knee-jerk statements from Radcliffe and Watson - I'd forgotten just how shitty those were.

I'll never forgive John Boyne for the abomination that was The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas, but it was pretty glorious when the threatened Aidan Comerford with legal action and Comerford shit himself and had to make a public grovelling apology!

Another good piece from the Mail

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10368401/DAN-WOOTTON-JK-Rowlings-courage-defying-cancel-mob-crowning-glory.html

Hard to believe that less than a decade ago she was suing them and winning.

I think the Fish Woman has understood 1984 to be a guide book, not a cautionary tale. It really should be taught in the curriculum again at O-level (I have completely forgotten what the current equivalent is )