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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Harrop MPTS Thread 3

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BoreOfWhabylon · 25/11/2021 11:16

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YetAnotherSpartacus · 30/11/2021 09:40

Jumping in to placemark again.

MoltenLasagne · 30/11/2021 09:53

@SpangleWhorl

I think a lot of the tractivist crowd, male and female, have a deep-seated resentment of their mothers. It's part of their psychology.
Yes, and also anger at actual mothers daring to be more than 2D nurturing Madonna characters. Hence the rage at JKR who was the ultimate mother figure for a lot of Millenial/Gen Z TRAs.
EyesOpening · 30/11/2021 10:13

@SpangleWhorl

I think a lot of the tractivist crowd, male and female, have a deep-seated resentment of their mothers. It's part of their psychology.
Nothing to do (necessarily) with trans activists but I did notice from Counting Dead Women, a lot of women killed by their sons or grandsons, shocking.
EyesOpening · 30/11/2021 10:19

WomanStillNotAFeeling

Ekofisk
So, witness statements now being dumped on public blogs.
*@Ekofisk please would you or someone else message me links, I can’t find it and need to check. I suspect they are being posted by someone I’ve blocked.

I saw them early yesterday but then I couldn’t find it again last night, so wondering if they’ve been taken down.

SpangleWhorl · 30/11/2021 10:22

@Flixon

he will be erased from the medical register. In my mind there is no doubt
He may well be - eventually. But unlikely this time, given the Tribunal's comments (as @Motorina pointed out) about there being a possibility of remediation. In other words, he's getting another chance.

Possibly the sanction will mean he's drinking in the last chance saloon though.

And, if I understand the situation correctly, there may well be fresh complaints waiting to be submitted, arising out of his ill-judged, and arguably even more 'deplorable', conduct during the period of the MPTS hearing. I think it's quite likely he will be investigated again.

I reserve a great deal of scorn for the people - 'professionals', allegedly - who have encouraged him to adopt this behaviour, knowing what he stands to lose and the distress caused to others. Mummy issues indeed.

PenguindreamsofDraco · 30/11/2021 10:26

@EyesOpening

WomanStillNotAFeeling

Ekofisk
So, witness statements now being dumped on public blogs.
@Ekofisk please would you or someone else message me links, I can’t find it and need to check. I suspect they are being posted by someone I’ve blocked.*

I saw them early yesterday but then I couldn’t find it again last night, so wondering if they’ve been taken down.

They're still where they were yesterday.
ClosdesMouches · 30/11/2021 10:28

The other possible flaw in that plan is that he comes across on TV as a pompous, charmless wazzock

Surely not?
Grin

Doubletoilandtrouble · 30/11/2021 10:31

To be fair to LOJ, if his mother told him that a woman with a dildo would be the same as a biological male, I would understand if he felt a certain resentment for her.

I suspect that she didn’t though.

PronounssheRa · 30/11/2021 10:36

I reserve a great deal of scorn for the people - 'professionals', allegedly - who have encouraged him to adopt this behaviour, knowing what he stands to lose and the distress caused to others

So do I. Harrops 'friends' have a lot less to lose than he does, why he allowed them to encourage and ultimately escalate his deplorable behaviour is beyond me. I suppose it goes back to his lack of insight and self worth also Harrop genuinely thought the GMC wouldn't be bothered by his behaviour

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 30/11/2021 10:40

I suppose it goes back to his lack of insight and self worth

I accept that those were his words before the tribunal that are at substantial odds with his continuing behaviour outside the tribunal space.

I am persuaded that he and his supporters have previously operated in a culture of impunity and they genuinely didn't think that there could be any consequences for being 'on the right side of history' no matter how many chats there were with senior figures etc.

Redshoeblueshoe · 30/11/2021 10:48

Seriously Bore - you have missed a golden opportunity here. Harrop and TV personality in the same sentence.

I would expect you to show us an example of that. Maybe one from Sky News ?Grin

SpangleWhorl · 30/11/2021 10:56

Indeed, I am minded to wonder if the Dr has ever appeared on a televisual feast, perhaps?

PronounssheRa · 30/11/2021 11:03

Something like this, maybe?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 30/11/2021 11:18

I can't find the witness statements - I presume they have been archived and screen-shotted for future reference as complaint material though?

SpangleWhorl · 30/11/2021 11:35

I can't find them either, @YetAnotherSpartacus, and I've been tearing the pants out of google, twitter, farming threads, etc. Nada. I'm hoping too that someone else can confirm to the MPTS that it has happened, as I am sure it is very interested to know the facts of the matter.

Redshoeblueshoe · 30/11/2021 11:37

ProunounssheRa that fits the bill perfectly

Rightsraptor · 30/11/2021 11:37

Oh please, tell me the leaked witness statements have been archived? I

NonHypotheticalLurkingParent · 30/11/2021 11:40

Honestly, I know this is an epic saga, but please don't go looking for witness statements on Twitter. It only fuels the fire.

The harassment that's been metered out over the years, has been relentless. By releasing the statements they're just compounding it. It's clear Harrop, etc, thought it was a game, tweets sent intended to annoy, provoke and irritate. The 'game' they've been playing, reporting others to their workplace, embassies, and the police, has come back to bite them hard. All the players on their side, not just Harrop, will be like wounded animals, lashing out and trying to cause as much damage as they can. They're all best avoided.

Ekofisk · 30/11/2021 11:41

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PronounssheRa · 30/11/2021 11:41

@YetAnotherSpartacus

I can't find the witness statements - I presume they have been archived and screen-shotted for future reference as complaint material though?
Some are still available with threats to upload more. At least one of the witnesses impacted is aware.
EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 30/11/2021 11:42

@Rightsraptor

Oh please, tell me the leaked witness statements have been archived? I
I understand that people want the leak to be validated and archived…

However, wouldn't this be very distressing to the people whose statements and testimonies plus details have been leaked?

Or, has it already been archived on KF and it's useless to try and walk this back?

JustcameoutGC · 30/11/2021 11:45

Are we expecting the sanction announcement today? (Sorry got a bit lost in the process)

Zebracat · 30/11/2021 11:48

I cant find them either. Not prurient, just like to check sources. I think that the GMC legal team should be shown them. It is absolutely terrible and he can deny all knowledge of the the statements being published, but he has clearly once again made a massive misjudgement, and shown people material , which has led to witnesses being revictimised. Or else the leak is from the GMC or the MPTS, but Vice said they had this stuff, and that’s going to be from him.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 30/11/2021 11:48

@JustcameoutGC

Are we expecting the sanction announcement today? (Sorry got a bit lost in the process)
Earliest will be 14:00 - it may be later than that.
EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 30/11/2021 11:49

@Zebracat

I cant find them either. Not prurient, just like to check sources. I think that the GMC legal team should be shown them. It is absolutely terrible and he can deny all knowledge of the the statements being published, but he has clearly once again made a massive misjudgement, and shown people material , which has led to witnesses being revictimised. Or else the leak is from the GMC or the MPTS, but Vice said they had this stuff, and that’s going to be from him.
It's unlikely that the direct source of a leak can be established.
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