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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Prof Stock on Lorraine this morning 9.10am

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NellieEllie · 08/11/2021 08:39

Just seen on twitter

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Fleek · 10/11/2021 11:40

@FemaleAndLearning

Looking through twitter, people do want a balanced debate but only with non GCs!
That's an astonishing list of demands. Can you imagine any other group being able to set conditions like that. 'We'll talk to you but only if we have total control of what you then present.' Even with something like racism, which is pretty clear cut in terms of being easily argued as being awful and something that needs stamping out, it would instinctively feel grossly unreasonable if discussion around what counts as it was stifled.
334bu · 10/11/2021 11:49

Where does Lily Cade go on the scale?

Not sure what bit of the scale I am on but these people might be more on Lilly's side

transcrimeuk.com/category/sexual-offences/

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/11/2021 18:09

Looking through twitter, people do want a balanced debate but only with non GCs!

That tweet ConfusedGrin

littlbrowndog · 10/11/2021 18:29

That was some burn flyingoionk

Still sniggering at it 🔥🔥🔥

secular111 · 10/11/2021 19:30

@MargaritaPie

Where does Lily Cade go on the scale?
I guess we need a benchmark. Seeing as Cade isn't associated with any GC group, has never attended a GC demonstration, never been interviewed by a recognised GC advocate, never associated with GC's, she would likely need her own category.

Yostin Murillo might give us a benchmark for transgender women to work from.

What do you reckon Margarita?

Prof Stock on Lorraine this morning 9.10am
ArabellaScott · 10/11/2021 19:41

@FemaleAndLearning

Looking through twitter, people do want a balanced debate but only with non GCs!
Everyone loves a one-sided debate!
MargaritaPie · 12/11/2021 21:17

[quote 334bu]Where does Lily Cade go on the scale?

Not sure what bit of the scale I am on but these people might be more on Lilly's side

transcrimeuk.com/category/sexual-offences/[/quote]
I wonder what the public reaction would be if someone made a website and just documented crimes on it that were committed by gay people, or by black people, or people of a given religion?

I do happen to remember Nick Griffin BNP's Twitter feed from many years back. He would cherry-pick news articles that show crimes committed by foreigners in Britain, almost as if he had some kind of agenda against them. Almost everyone called him out for racism.

Thefartingsofaofdenmarkstreet · 12/11/2021 21:31

I wonder what the public reaction would be if someone made a website and just documented crimes on it that were committed by gay people, or by black people, or people of a given religion?

I do happen to remember Nick Griffin BNP's Twitter feed from many years back. He would cherry-pick news articles that show crimes committed by foreigners in Britain, almost as if he had some kind of agenda against them. Almost everyone called him out for racism.

Do you still genuinely not get it or are you just being deliberately obtuse?

The reason that women want to discuss crimes by transwomen is that transwomen are male and all the research shows that transitioning does not magically take those males out of the high risk sex class, and that the male pattern of violence continues despite transition. Which is a large part of the reason that women don't want transwomen in their single sex spaces.

There is no evidence to suggest that gay people, black people or Muslim people commit crimes at any higher rate than any other demographic. But male violence is massively disproportionate compared to female violence. And transwomen are male.

Unless you can tell me the exact, objective point at which a male who identifies as a woman comes out of the high risk class of male and into the low risk class of female?

Thefartingsofaofdenmarkstreet · 12/11/2021 21:34

Interesting you should mention Nick Griffin though. He was platformed by the BBC on Question Time, made a massive tit of himself and the BNP faded into oblivion soon after.

Which makes one wonder why TRAs have been soooooo desperate to no-platform GC feminists and not allow them to air their views, rather than just letting them 'do a Nick Griffin'? I wonder why that could be?

334bu · 12/11/2021 21:48

I wonder what the public reaction would be if someone made a website and just documented crimes on it that were committed by gay people, or by black people, or people of a given religion?

I put a link to a list of male sex offenders, all of whom identify as women, because a PP decided to introduce the name of one of the vanishingly few female sex predators into their argument that GC beliefs should be discounted , because they disapprove of the politics of some GC women and that women can be "as dangerous " as males, a statement which is a total falsehood.
Male people who identify as women share the same patterns of criminality as other men. They present the same danger to women as other men. This is simply a fact however inconvenient it may be for those who try to pretend that in criminal behaviour they are just like women.

Helleofabore · 12/11/2021 22:05

I wonder what the public reaction would be if someone made a website and just documented crimes on it that were committed by gay people, or by black people, or people of a given religion?

Well… if it was a website that set out to show that crimes were being misrecorded in statistics, or if those on the web site were put into prisons meant for protecting a group that that person didn’t actually belong in, just identified as, or… if that group was trying to remove the safeguarding of another group and needed to be tracked because the official statistics did not track those numbers, then yes, i certainly could see a reason for such a website.

That you used this as an defence shows how little critical thinking you actually have done about this.

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