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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Am i being stupid? Why is it only lesbians who are being told they need to have sex with transwomen?

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StealthPolarBear · 26/10/2021 21:51

Presumably straight men are also coming under fire for trabsphobia?

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StealthPolarBear · 26/10/2021 21:52

Presumably the majority of transwomen want to form relationships with men? Not cis women?

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AssassinatedBeauty · 26/10/2021 21:54

It's a question of scale as far as I understand it. Transwomen are male and so are sexually attracted to women in the majority. So post transition they will still want to date women, not men. Hence all the focus on lesbians rather than straight men.

SW1amp · 26/10/2021 21:54

The BBC article said the majority of trans women have transitioned from being straight men, so are still attracted to women

So it’s unfortunately almost always lesbian women on the receiving end of most of the sexual attention

CloseYourEyesAndSee · 26/10/2021 21:55

Straight people don't get accused of transphobia because they aren't useful props to validate the identities of heterosexual trans identifying people.

Trans 'lesbians' don't want to date straight women, not validating. Trans 'gay men' don't want to date straight men, same.
The homosexual transsexuals have always dated gay people (lesbians date transmen and gay men date transwomen) so they don't have anything to be angry about in terms of dating pools. It's just the ones who want their identifies validated who accuse others of being phobic for having boundaries.

Diaryofamadwoman · 26/10/2021 21:56

The traditional transexual tends to be gay males.

This movement is advancing the sexual rights of aggressive straight males

CloseYourEyesAndSee · 26/10/2021 21:56

@StealthPolarBear

Presumably the majority of transwomen want to form relationships with men? Not cis women?
Why would you think that? The numbers of HSTS are smaller than 'trans lesbians' these days
StealthPolarBear · 26/10/2021 21:56

Hmm transwomen are women in every sense
The majority of women are attacted to men
Straight men need to accept transwomen as sexual partners, penis and all, or examone their transphobia, i think

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Chewieboora · 26/10/2021 21:57

This just blows my brain.

Chewieboora · 26/10/2021 21:59

@StealthPolarBear

Hmm transwomen are women in every sense The majority of women are attacted to men Straight men need to accept transwomen as sexual partners, penis and all, or examone their transphobia, i think
They need to rethink their genital preference.

What a load of codswallop

Honestly, I don't understand the absolute bollocks spouted by Stonewall et al.

StealthPolarBear · 26/10/2021 21:59

It makes me angry. Other women are of course the bad guys and men get to do what the hell they want, as usual

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Gncq · 26/10/2021 22:01

The majority of TW are sexually attracted to women.

Heterosexual women are far more likely to find a TW sexually attractive than they find women, but hetero women don't provide "validation" because they'd normally sleep with men.

Lesbians are sexually attracted to women, so if a TW sleeps with a lesbian, they get to sleep with someone who validates them as a woman.

TW who prefer dick tend not to bother heterosexual men too much wonder why.
I'm also not sure there's much traction in TW sleeping with gay men and then calling it a straight relationship? If that's "a thing" it's not been on my radar.

Gncq · 26/10/2021 22:03

Rose of Dawn phrases it like "the majority of men fancy women, do of course the majority of TW fancy women" which makes sense.

Unfortunately I'm more cynical and think AGP is at the root of a lot of these "lesbians with a penis".

OP have you heard of AGP?

ivykaty44 · 26/10/2021 22:03

How can you be attracted to someone you don't feel attracted to, then be berated for not being attracted to that person due to characteristics you don't find attractive in that group of people

StealthPolarBear · 26/10/2021 22:06

Yes ive jeard of it. But twaw no exceptoons. Until ot comes to who they want to put their ladydick into .

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StealthPolarBear · 26/10/2021 22:07

@ivykaty44

How can you be attracted to someone you don't feel attracted to, then be berated for not being attracted to that person due to characteristics you don't find attractive in that group of people
Well quite.
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Unreasonabubble · 26/10/2021 22:09

@StealthPolarBear

Hmm transwomen are women in every sense The majority of women are attacted to men Straight men need to accept transwomen as sexual partners, penis and all, or examone their transphobia, i think
Gob smacked.

Glad I know you are taking the proverbial...

Why should lesbians be berated for not wanting sex with persons who have penises?

StealthPolarBear · 26/10/2021 22:11

Happy for that to happen as long as straight men get it too

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Gncq · 26/10/2021 22:12

I always find it jaw dropping that most TW are het, they have a "genital preference" themselves and know it.
Wouldn't dream of doing dick themselves.
Wouldn't get it up for another person with a penis. Yet.... fair game to harass women for not wanting to do dick.

OldCrone · 26/10/2021 22:12

TW who prefer dick tend not to bother heterosexual men too much wonder why.

And when they do, the men sometimes get violent.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/man-stab-woman-119-times-transgender-told-date-mississippi-hotel-room-dwayne-hickerson-dee-whigham-a7860591.html

Unreasonabubble · 26/10/2021 22:14

@StealthPolarBear

Happy for that to happen as long as straight men get it too
I see what you mean.
StealthPolarBear · 26/10/2021 22:15

Oh no presumably tw are happh with women witj penises? Theh are women, no exceptoons after all.
Or am i just talking utter crap?

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Gncq · 26/10/2021 22:15

^ yeah and t**fs are to blame for that too.

OldCrone · 26/10/2021 22:18

Why should lesbians be berated for not wanting sex with persons who have penises?

According to Stonewall, lesbians who don't want to have sex with people with penises are 'prejudiced'. That's what Nancy Kelley said in this article today:

"Nobody should ever be pressured into dating, or pressured into dating people they aren't attracted to. But if you find that when dating, you are writing off entire groups of people, like people of colour, fat people, disabled people or trans people, then it's worth considering how societal prejudices may have shaped your attractions."

Anontwentyone · 26/10/2021 22:18

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