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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Boris Johnson backs Kathleen Stock and LGB Alliance in trans rights row

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Igneococcus · 21/10/2021 17:24

Times article:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bcd547fc-3281-11ec-820f-e2be9b2cb5fd?shareToken=5c3a9e0bca841aaf9e00e4221e557a2f

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JulesRimetStillGleaming · 22/10/2021 18:34

@DisgustedofManchester

So good to see a misogynist, racist, homophobic, islamophobic serial adulterer who cheated on his wife while she was getting treatment for cancer being lauded on these pages for his support for ... well not sure what LGBA do for LGB people... which is why it fits so well... of course!

Yeah. He's a shit. He's also the Prime Minister. So that's quite important.

Needmoresleep · 22/10/2021 18:43

I have no idea why my previous post was deleted and MN have not told me. All I was trying to do was to counter YoghurtMondays suggestion that Dominic Cummings should get credit, on the basis that a belief that you can’t change sex is pretty widespread. Ah well. Perhaps Cummings has joined our watchers?!

It does not matter what people think of Boris, and I personally am not a fan. He is Prime Minister and a PM with a large majority. Civil servants and other senior people within the public sector will/should take note. Especially the suggestion that there is senior level support.

The Mail reporting has evolved.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10120565/Now-teacakes-cancelled-Tunnocks-stumbles-culture-war-LGB-Alliance-gifs.html

Gncq · 22/10/2021 20:17

Haha that Daily Mail article is great, sums up the lunacy. Sunlight sunlight

1Week · 22/10/2021 21:03

Yes, the serious description of what gender critical means. People who believe you can't change biological sex. Like it's a fringe unheard of position.

Everyone scratching their head, thinking, I'm gender critical then.

Deliriumoftheendless · 22/10/2021 21:08

[quote andyoldlabour]Blimey, Boris yesterday, Vladimir today, if Kim Jong Un and the Ayatollah Khamenei come on board, I will have to stock up on some strong stuff.
I may even ask myself

[/quote] Has anyone checked what Dracula, Hannibal Lector and Great Cthulhu think?

(I’m actually onboard with whatever when it come to Cthulhu).

Unsure33 · 22/10/2021 21:34

I think the fact is that many political parties offer solutions to problems of which some may appeal to you and some may not.

I do not believe one party is totally amazing and one party is the pits.

Life is not black and white .

Therefore when you vote you surely look at what is being offered, decide what is important to you and vote accordingly. I think it’s quite old fashioned to stick to one party just because you always have . Party politics shift all the time .

I can’t see the point of all this slagging off of a complete party because unless you are very gullible someone’s opinion on mumsnet is not going to sway anyone’s vote.

The interesting discussion in this huge debate that affects all women is how the politicians are reacting to what is going on and the attempt to limit free speech . Knowledge is important.

Unsure33 · 22/10/2021 21:38

@DisgustedofManchester

Check your facts your post is not even accurate especially in respect of his wife’s cancer . And I am willing to bet you have.not read the full articles that he has written and jumped in the bandwagon of believing extracts taken out of context .

LonginesPrime · 22/10/2021 22:34

Thinking about Nolan Investigates and how Ofcom was slated for not giving the LGBA a look-in and letting Stonewall run the show (quite literally, in terms of Ofcom's mandate), a cynic might wonder whether Boris's support of the LGBA is a simply a smart tactic to mitigate claims of Stonewall bias within government.

Engaging with them is a sensible way to dampen calls for an enquiry into lobbying within government, as I'm sure Stonewall would be the tip of the iceberg there.

It's worth engaging with the LGBA, as it's likely not in Stonewall's or the government's interests to be forced to be transparent about their relationship.

1Week · 22/10/2021 22:50

You're very cynical LonginesPrime

Boris is a very canny operator, I think.

Wildfart · 22/10/2021 22:58

You could definitely recite that to BJ to the accompaniment of tambourines while you call upon him to repent.

Hilarious. This week has been funny.

And disgusted of Manchester's string of insults is precisely the problem. It's all that's left of the tattered umbrella now, longer and longer insults.

Lammysaurus · 22/10/2021 23:48

@DisgustedofManchester

So good to see a misogynist, racist, homophobic, islamophobic serial adulterer who cheated on his wife while she was getting treatment for cancer being lauded on these pages for his support for ... well not sure what LGBA do for LGB people... which is why it fits so well... of course!
Very interesting, DisgustedofMachester, to see that you've noticed all these horrible things Boris Johnson has allegedly said and done.

And yet, for all the “tank-topped bum boys”, the “letterboxes”, the “watermelon smiles”, the ”feckless and hopeless” working classes, the “gay gangsters” (and worse) - not to mention the botched Brexit, the proroguing of Parliament, the decimation of the NHS …

He's not being constantly harassed and bullied and sent credible threats of murder, rape, and sexual violence* like Kathleen Stock or Rosie Duffield or Joanna Cherry or Rosa Friedman or JK Rowling, to the extent he can no longer do his job or attend speaking events or party conferences.

Why is that, I wonder? What could the difference possibly be? ConfusedShockHmm

*Please note, I am NOT suggesting he should be; please don’t!!!

andyoldlabour · 23/10/2021 11:25

Deliriumoftheendless

"I’m actually onboard with whatever when it come to Cthulhu"

I had to Google him, I have led a very sheltered lifeGrin I definitely think that he wouldn't have anything to do with genderwoo.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu

ArabellaScott · 23/10/2021 11:47

You could definitely recite that to BJ to the accompaniment of tambourines while you call upon him to repent.

Grin
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