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Netflix urged to take down Dave Chapelle’s show after accusations of ‘anti-LGBT diatribes’

190 replies

ItsRainingProstateOwners · 07/10/2021 16:50

news.sky.com/story/netflix-urged-to-pull-down-dave-chappelles-new-show-after-accusations-of-anti-lgbtq-diatribes-12428009

Says he is “team TERF” and backs JK Rowling.

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SirSamuelVimes · 08/10/2021 12:45

[quote trancepants]Look at the comments on the Variety article about Jaclyn Moore's threat to stop working with Netflix. It's being ratio-ed to fuck. I think there is definitely a sea change happening at the minute.

twitter.com/Variety/status/1446232724147040268[/quote]
Excellent Twitter replies.

trancepants · 08/10/2021 12:58

I honestly suspect that this is a subject that will quite quickly achieve a critical mass in terms of changing direction. Most of the people in my social groups are very, very leftist and woke. But the majority of people in the world, I very firmly believe, know this shit is bullshit. Even if they don't know enough to realise it's dangerous, they know it's bullshit. People are either 'being kind' to the old stereotype of a 'harmless transexual,' or they have given it very little thought or they are firmly GC and afraid to speak up. There are other people, who were like I once was, who are people who would have always identified as activists, who are starting to realise that they don't agree with all of the woke group think. I think the 2slgbtqqia+ and the straight "demi queers" are pushing more than a few people over the edge. But once people realise how far this shit is being pushed, and the more a small but vocal number of people speak up, all of a sudden fucking everyone will stand up and speak up.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/10/2021 13:02

[quote trancepants]Look at the comments on the Variety article about Jaclyn Moore's threat to stop working with Netflix. It's being ratio-ed to fuck. I think there is definitely a sea change happening at the minute.

twitter.com/Variety/status/1446232724147040268[/quote]
I just read that thread. All the head tilting made me feel seasick.

trancepants · 08/10/2021 13:06

I took a look at Jaclyn's twitter. Apparently Jaclyn's big issue is that the health insurance Jaclyn has through the Writer's Guild of America won't pay for nosejobs, which Jaclyn needs to be a proper woman. But Starbuck's does, so maybe now that Jaclyn is quitting Netflix, Jaclyn can train as a barista.

malloo · 08/10/2021 13:06

Never heard of this guy but sounds encouraging. I always think good comedians must be biting their hands trying not to take the piss out of all this stuff in public - 100 genders and pronouns and non binary bla bla being taken really seriously is such a gift to comedians because its so ridiculous.

AlfonsoTheDinosaur · 08/10/2021 13:14

What is it with Moore's headtilt?

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 08/10/2021 13:16

That was the best joke in the whole thing. It was genuinely very funny

That was one of the bits i laughed at…very funny

LobsterNapkin · 08/10/2021 13:21

With comedians it really is mainly about them touching on the issue at all, and revealing some of the contradictions.

It's never going to be a systematic full-on exposition of the issues involved in a particular area.

JoodyBlue · 08/10/2021 13:27

I found a lot of it offensive, in the same way I used to find Frankie Boyle offensive. I found myself pleased to hear him talk about this issue and aware that I am prepared to be offended if it means people are able to talk/satiricise and publicly comment on issues. I have zero respect for Boyle who was perfectly prepared to be disgusting about women, and simply support our silencing on the issue of GC - he is a true misogynist in my eyes. I don't think Chappelle "gets" it from a woman's viewpoint. But he gets it from the point of view of an onlooker interested in fairness. The story about Daphne was genuinely moving and gave me a glimpse of DC as someone I might actually quite like behind the stage persona with all the bravado and the calling of women bitches etc. I liked it when he said "if we aint laughing together, we aint laughing". But it would be good to see him include women in that togetherness.

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 08/10/2021 13:28

@AlfonsoTheDinosaur

What is it with Moore's headtilt?
It was the smirky sort of smile that concerned me
TedImgoingmad · 08/10/2021 13:35

Dead ringer for Carson from Downton Abbey.

EishetChayil · 08/10/2021 13:36

Turns out he's a massive anti-Semite. Brilliant.

I can't support that. I just can't. No matter if he's on the money about the trans stuff.

After giving it more thought, I'm not sure he is actually on the money regarding that. What he said is inflammatory at best. I don't think it helps our cause.

LobsterNapkin · 08/10/2021 13:38

@TedImgoingmad

Dead ringer for Carson from Downton Abbey.
OMG you're right, I knew it was making me think of someone.

Isn't it weird how there are certain kinds of faces that you see again and again?

ASatisfyingThump · 08/10/2021 14:03

The bit at the end about Daphne actually made me tear up a little, when he said she wasn't part of their tribe, she was part of his. In telling her story he beautifully exposed the toxicity of the TRA movement, how they'll brutally turn on anyone who dares step out of line, even the people they claim to be representing. And I think he nailed the thing we've been saying since the start - we have nothing against trans people on a personal level, many of us know and care about at least one trans person, but we do have a problem with the ideology and the way the activists behave.

ScreamingMeMe · 08/10/2021 14:05

@EishetChayil

Turns out he's a massive anti-Semite. Brilliant.

I can't support that. I just can't. No matter if he's on the money about the trans stuff.

After giving it more thought, I'm not sure he is actually on the money regarding that. What he said is inflammatory at best. I don't think it helps our cause.

Is he?
MarshmallowSwede · 08/10/2021 15:13

From Twitter:

Netflix urged to take down Dave Chapelle’s show after accusations of ‘anti-LGBT diatribes’
Netflix urged to take down Dave Chapelle’s show after accusations of ‘anti-LGBT diatribes’
Journeyofthedragons · 08/10/2021 15:26

I'm surprised at all the love DC is getting in here too, you don't have to dig deep to find something a bit iffy.

Netflix urged to take down Dave Chapelle’s show after accusations of ‘anti-LGBT diatribes’
RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 08/10/2021 15:32

Sorry where are people saying they love Dave Chappelle?

I think someone said they liked him, maybe it was loved him but that doesn’t translate to ‘all the love’

RedDogsBeg · 08/10/2021 15:36

@AlfonsoTheDinosaur

What is it with Moore's headtilt?
A veritable feast of coy head tilts and coquettish side eye to the camera, to mis-quote a famous tag line from an advert Moore you are really spoiling us.
NonnyMouse1337 · 08/10/2021 15:44

@AlfonsoTheDinosaur

A question to those who watched Chapelle's show - was the 'diatribe' aimed at LGB or just T?
He mostly took the piss out of white people. He also made jokes about feminists, women, lesbians, gays, trans.... Don't think he made fun of bisexuals this time apart from saying we should be more like them ( don't want to say too much or it would give away the joke).
NonnyMouse1337 · 08/10/2021 15:49

There were 2 stony faced women and a beardy man near the front who were clearly disapproving - and unintentionally funny to watch in the process.

Their constipated, stony expressions were so funny while everyone around was howling with laughter. 😂

BelleHathor · 08/10/2021 15:52

Some comedy is meant to be dark, never a truer word said in jest etc.
Remember Ricky Gervais hosting the Golden Globes last year as he joked in a room full of Hollywood elites about the Weinstein company "buying" Golden Globes for actresses. It was meant to make the audience feel uncomfortable, as a lot of them knew and benefited from Weinstein's abuses and kept quiet while it suited them.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=iJOb9xHggS4

RainbowZebraWarrior · 08/10/2021 18:49

@JoodyBlue

I found a lot of it offensive, in the same way I used to find Frankie Boyle offensive. I found myself pleased to hear him talk about this issue and aware that I am prepared to be offended if it means people are able to talk/satiricise and publicly comment on issues. I have zero respect for Boyle who was perfectly prepared to be disgusting about women, and simply support our silencing on the issue of GC - he is a true misogynist in my eyes. I don't think Chappelle "gets" it from a woman's viewpoint. But he gets it from the point of view of an onlooker interested in fairness. The story about Daphne was genuinely moving and gave me a glimpse of DC as someone I might actually quite like behind the stage persona with all the bravado and the calling of women bitches etc. I liked it when he said "if we aint laughing together, we aint laughing". But it would be good to see him include women in that togetherness.
Watched till the end and agree with all of this.
DysonSphere · 08/10/2021 20:21

He's been given a standing ovation!

Dave Chappelle gets applauded in LA amid JK Rowling transgender spat www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10073433/Dave-Chappelle-gets-standing-ovation-LA-backing-JK-Rowling-transgender-spat.html?ito=native_share_article-masthead

NecessaryScene · 08/10/2021 21:06

Good piece by Andrew Sullivan:

Dave Chappelle Is Right, Isn't He?

Chappelle’s final Netflix special, “The Closer,” is a classic. Far from being outdated, it’s slightly ahead of its time, as the pushback against wokeness gains traction. It is extremely funny, a bit meta, monumentally mischievous, and I sat with another homo through the whole thing, stoned, laughing our asses off — especially when he made fun of us. The way the elite media portrays us, you’d think every member of the BLT community is so fragile we cannot laugh at ourselves. It doesn’t occur to them that, for many of us, Chappelle is a breath of honest air, doing what every comic should do: take aim at every suffocating piety of the powers that be — including the increasingly weird 2SLGBTQQIA+ mafia — and detonating them all.

The Closer is, in fact, a humanely brilliant indictment of elite culture at this moment in time: a brutal exposure of its identitarian monomania, its denial of reality, and its ruthless tactics of personal and public destruction. It marks a real moment: a punching up against the powerful, especially those who pretend they aren’t.

Bigoted? Please. Anyone who can watch this special and think Chappelle is homophobic or transphobic is either stupendously dumb or a touchy fanatic. He is no more transphobic than J.K. Rowling, i.e. not at all, and the full set masterfully proves it to anyone with eyes and ears.

He also uses this as an opportunity to talk about Abigail's Shrier interview with Bowers and Anderson.