Labour councillor reveals she suffered 'transphobic abuse' at party conference

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And where did Patricia Hannah-Wood, a trans woman, suffer this "abuse"?

In the loos, apparently. The women's loos, I assume.

I wonder what the nature of this alleged abuse is? A woman expressing her discomfort with having to share a female-only space with a male-bodied person?

But as we have been told, there is no conflict between women's rights and trans rights, so...

He shouldn't have been in the women's toilets!

@1Endeavour2

He shouldn't have been in the women's toilets!

I totally agree.

He shouldn't have been in the women's toilets!

Even aside from women's objections, it's clearly not safe for Patricia.

Patricia is obviously male, so is going to get challenged by women in the women's toilets.

There is no way Patricia would be challenged in the men's toilets.

I wonder how far this 'horrific' descriptor can stretch?

We had the billboard with 'woman' taken down, of course.

What about 'equality act'?

'Fairness'?

'Truth'?

'Reality'?

Are all these things deemed transphobic?

[quote ItsAllGoingToBeFine]I think it was this...

twitter.com/fabihaaskari/status/1442924836871831552?s=19[/quote]
Twitter has got a "sensitive content" warning on that picture. I thought such warnings were there for pictures of blood and gore, not a sign marking the entrance to the women's toilets.

@vesuvia

ArabellaScott wrote - "Hopefully this clip is at the correct time stamp:

youtu.be/tZpsWor40so

( from around -5.16)".

My version of YouTube gives timings from the start of the video. The contribution of the councillor who is the subject of this thread starts at 2:38:10 (that is 2 hours 38 minutes 10 seconds after the start of the video). The speech lasts about 5 minutes.

I presume that "-5.16" means 5 hours 16 minutes before the end of the video because the video's total duration is 7 hours 55 minutes 29 seconds.

Omg thank you! I could not find it with the -5 thing!

However even after taking so long trying to find the clip of them talking, I could only manage about 15 seconds of it.

I wonder the crowd shouting "shame" would be comfortable if that person walked into the toilets when their teenage daughter was there?

It gives me the rage!

"transphobic abuse" = woman asserting the single sex exceptions in the Equality Act 2010. Maybe??

Sorry about the time stamp, I couldn't find a way to get one with one that made sense!

even after taking so long trying to find the clip of them talking, I could only manage about 15 seconds of it.

Yes I was the same.

@2old4thissite

Worth watching for the very verbose scottish/American pansexual following too!! I don't think I'm stupid but WTH was she on about? And the over-enthusiastic applauding of them both. She got a cheer just for announcing her sexual preferences ffs! These clips are very eye-opening.

Word soup. Obviously thinks she sounds very clever. Talking about how trans comrades are 4 times more likely to be attacked than non trans comrades…. Not sure where those stats come from. Likened the abuse / sanctions LG historically people suffered with that of trans and that trans people are blanket accused of being predators. Conflated with intersex.

What radio 4 prog was Patricia on tonight?

Oh I am so angry and disgusted and alarmed and miserable about all this "transphobic" gobshite. Get out of women's spaces, men. Just fuck off.

Pink News has upgraded the abuse to "horrific". The report still gives no details of the horror.

So we have no idea what was 'horrific' but it was possibly a sticker, or someone questioning why a male person was in a single sex space.

If that's 'horrific' then what words are left for things like the 2-3 women who'll be murdered this week by their partner? The multiple murders of women this year? The TW who was stabbed and seriously injured?

They used "horrific" for the serious stabbing attack on an MTF trans person in Birmingham, too, so I guess this abuse must have been seriously bad!

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They used the same word about the stabbing, Artichoke

Omg the pansexual woman with the false statistics on afterwards
She wouldn't know working class if it bit her on the arse

Has Patricia no mobile phone upon which to record this "abuse"?

Labour has said they are committed to female protected spaces. Has Pat got a GRC?

"I was transphobically abused in this conference centre by one of our sisters"

How does Pat know the abuser identifies as a woman? Might have been a man in there illegally.

GRC is irrelevant. No laws about toilets apart from specific situations eg schools and even then they're being widely ignored.

I don't know why GRC keeps coming up on this thread tbh.

Fact is I find this incident happening as described very unlikely. The amount of factors that feel unusual are numerous. Including the lack of reporting the person who verbally abused them (I assume that verbal abuse is what they are implying).

In PN this jumped out-

'called for equal access to domestic abuse and rape support shelters.'

This is the standard demand.

I have never had any kind of answer at all as to why that is the demand rather than the obvious demand/ call for the more obvious thing that would help way more people of all groups.

And this demand at the labour party conference of all places is really galling.

For labour and anyone who cared about vulnerable groups and the services they need-

It's well reported and known that provision for rape crisis orgs has suffered cuts to funding for years. And that many are struggling.

The fact is that many groups in society that may need this service have different issues, backgrounds, challenges, and needs when it comes to support.

The obvious best thing to do is to 'demand', press for, get support including financial for a better service for all who need it, and one that understands the group they operate for.

Contd...

Women are the largest group by numbers and so their needs need to be met. There are things like possible pregnancy, risks of the rape being found out by family who will harm them because of it. Children. The male female dynamic. Etc.

Similarly straight men who are raped need those who understand there may well be an enormous impact on their entire life view. Their masculinity. I imagine that talking to another man who has been in that situation would be preferred.

Gay men and lesbians. Again. Possibly very tricky circs / feelings. Those in the community may well just be better placed to help.

Transpeople. A very specific set of experiences through life and very possibly rape because seen as trans. Or female trans people attacked despite their gender. This motivation to attack overlaps with gay men and lesbians. And bi people if taken as gay.

This is the LABOUR PARTY. they should be calling for better funding and services for all victims of sexual violence.

For trans people in particular and lgb people as well. There are so many charities, often well funded. Corporate support and cash. Massive support across the political spectrum.

But it's NEVER what's wanted or even mentioned. Ever.

It's always about access to things that were set up/ exist for women.

Have any of the colleagues who witnessed it tweeted anything yet?

Pink news should be ashamed to use “horrific” for an incident we don’t know the details of yet thus comparing it to a vicious stabbing incident. Very callous indeed.

I don't know.

I think this really should be reported to party or police/ both.

Verbal abuse is a crime and it sounds like a sustained and very abusive incident..
There are plenty of witnesses.

This person could well do it again.

Why is Patricia not acting? The individual could do it again. And being verbally abused themselves is bad enough.

Seeing Patricia speak in surprised they don't want it dealt with. If not for them then for other transpeople at the conference and afterwards.