Robin Moira White on Woman's Hour Now (Tuesday 28/9)

[WinterTrees]

Just turned on and heard this. It seems WH is really going for it this week with this issue. Making up for lost time.

Seems to be about RMW's work as a lawyer.

Yes especially getting up and refilling the hot water bottles five times a night to make sure you're really hot, not just nice and warm

@TheWeeDonkey

Its an interesting point you make. I have a friend who works at a breast screening clinic and she was telling me about the noticable difference between when men and transwomen turn up for appointments. Men tend to be very quiet sit in the corner and generally seem very awkward about being there, whereas the transwomen are much more assertive, almost like its a validation for them.

I thought it was a really interesting observation.

I think when we went in to the investigations waiting room the women there assumed I had taken him along with me. And there was a general air of displeasure.

Then they said would you mind waiting in this side room as men aren't allowed in this waiting room unless they are the patient and we want the women waiting to be as comfy as poss.

The Atmos relaxed.

And I'm not surprised. And it's fair enough.

At ours men are not allowed into that waiting area if they are with the patient for that reason.

All very sensible and easy and not a problem or shouldn't be.

(Although there was a male man kicking off on Twitter a while back about it being awful and unfair and sexist that he wasn't allowed in with his friend when she had to go).

Men are so arsey about anything for us. I mean loads and loads even 'nice' ones. I've met loads. They genuinly see at all an affront, an insult, that women are getting special stuff that they can't have. That's massive privilege and entitlement for you.

I'd remove the words "almost like" from your post WeeDonkey. It is.

Society expects people to fit into boxes

Ummm, I think actual women learn that when they're girls - I certainly realised this at about the age of 10.

Transwomen just don't get this, because they're born and raised as boys and men. They haven't experienced girlhood.

But actual women fight and battle against the boxes patriarchy tries to push us into. Not police stereotypes such as "skirt & heels" (I should also join many of you in the queue for the Gents in future, obviously).