Marion Millar on trial today

[ArabellaScott]

Solidarity to Marion and all the witches out to support her.

What’s happening Thursday?

@KittenKong

What’s happening Thursday?

Protest at the Scottish Parliament.

Ahhh. Better let my sister and her mates know then!

The horseshoe?' Was in there regularly pre covid as my office is literally across the road. Won't be back.

What's this ManAtTheBusStop thing?

Is that how Paisley refers to theyself?

Twitter handles, aye

Thanks Spindle. I've just had a look but am blocked, presumably due to the company I keep.

Oh dear, he's blocked me too.

Can anyone link me to the tweets which are the subject of the charges or a copy of the charges? Of course my first instinct is in support but I'd also like to know what the charge is based on. Thank you

@arcof, the image appears in this article

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/you-wont-believe-why-theyve-charged

www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19547978.scots-feminist-hate-crime-case-continued-consider-human-rights-issues/

"The identities of the complainant and police officer are already widely known."

Thanks to that Graham Linear guy or whatever his name is who leaked their identities on his blog, right?

"More women being thrown out of bars in Scotland"

Marion and chums went to a bar that happens to have a trans owner and left anti-trans material behind in the bathrooms (which understandably the staff weren't happy with). They then allegedly shouted at the bar staff when confronted about it then refused to leave when asked, and only left once the police were called out and arrived.

It helps to give things a little context.

I know they like to campaign but IMO I don't think private establishments are the place for that.

It helps to give things a little context.

Yes, it does. Here is an article that uses primary sources, i.e. it quotes the bartender's version of events, word for word.

I think anyone who is not already up-to-date on the course of events should do the bartender the service of hearing it all from them, rather than taking your word for it.

Don't you?

democracycoma.wordpress.com/2021/08/24/liberal-democrats-and-trans-activism/amp/

@MargaritaPie - why are you still making up stories about what actually happened? Your agenda is showing again….

Marion and chums went to a bar that happens to have a trans owner and left anti-trans material behind in the bathrooms (which understandably the staff weren't happy with). They then allegedly shouted at the bar staff when confronted about it then refused to leave when asked, and only left once the police were called out and arrived.
It helps to give things a little context.

I know they like to campaign but IMO I don't think private establishments are the place for that.

I agree with this (although I accept that nobody really knows who left the leaflets in the first place before anyone says)
Have seen a couple of tweets from following links on here and it seems like they went in knowing it was run by a trans woman, and if so the comments I saw made sense
One saying "oh no, she gave me a look!" "what a nasty woman, LOOKING at me"
(will try and find the source)
believe me, it sounds like the exact same shit you had to put up with at high school - "I was only looking, didn't mean anything by it!"
Yeah right, if you've been on the receiving end of bullying behaviour you know the difference between a look and a look.

Graham Linear guy though - that'll be Graham Linehan, even I know him lol - it;s possible to love Father Ted whilst still thinking one of the creators is an utter dickhead
To paraphrase Father Jack - "how did that gobshite get on television?! "

"although I accept that nobody really knows who left the leaflets in the first place before anyone says"

The transwoman actually said on her Twitter that Marion and her gang had been doing it at other pubs too.

[quote PurgatoryOfPotholes]It helps to give things a little context.

Yes, it does. Here is an article that uses primary sources, i.e. it quotes the bartender's version of events, word for word.

I think anyone who is not already up-to-date on the course of events should do the bartender the service of hearing it all from them, rather than taking your word for it.

Don't you?

democracycoma.wordpress.com/2021/08/24/liberal-democrats-and-trans-activism/amp/[/quote]
One thread on here (as in this forum) had people deriding and jeering at someone who linked to a wiki page after they'd been asked for a source.
This is no better?
I mean, it's a wordpress blog.
I have a wordpress blog.
In other words, anyone can have a wordpress blog.
That's not an article.
It's a blog post.
Quoting the bartender.
So therefore it's an article with the blogger's bias or opinions behind it.

@MargaritaPie

"although I accept that nobody really knows who left the leaflets in the first place before anyone says"

The transwoman actually said on her Twitter that Marion and her gang had been doing it at other pubs too.

How could the bartender know that? Was the bartender with them, doing it?

Have seen a couple of tweets from following links on here and it seems like they went in knowing it was run by a trans woman, and if so the comments I saw made sense

What tweets were those? The bartender says very clearly that they were certain the group had not realised they weren't born female.

@MargaritaPie

"although I accept that nobody really knows who left the leaflets in the first place before anyone says"

The transwoman actually said on her Twitter that Marion and her gang had been doing it at other pubs too.

Ah OK, must have missed that if so

Quaggars, Quaagars. I know you're brighter than that.

Think about it. Why have I supplied that article in particular? For the "primary sources", i.e. the screenshots. From both sides.

All neatly compiled to provide the "context".

Will have a look

(my comment was in response to looking if I'd missed any tweets)

"How could the bartender know that?"

I don't know. Maybe establishments share information about potential troublemakers?

@MargaritaPie

"How could the bartender know that?"

I don't know. Maybe establishments share information about potential troublemakers?

So if stuff is left in the toilets, they know exactly who did it and they are so sure they inform everyone else in the town?

How do they know this with such certainty? Cameras?

The owner who kicked out Marion said she recognised her when she came in and kept an eye on her and the group. Maybe the staff made a point of checking the toilets after they had been used by them?