Do we have it anywhere on record that Stonewall does/does not support people to express their sexuality as exclusively homosexual?

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The expectation that lesbians accept partners with penises was one of the things that really made me start questioning gender identity politics more closely.

Exclusively homosexual lesbian spaces have disappeared as viewed to be transphobic. Just look on any lesbian dating apps and many of the users are male and be-penised. Some may be fine with this, but all of my lesbian friends are not, and they feel very disenfranchised, but equally they feel unable to speak out. Just look at what happened in Manchester.

I just can't wrap my head around how the prevoiusly stalwart and highly effective champion of gay rights has now essentially outlawed exclusive homosexuality.

Have they made any statements that make this stance clear? Have they actively said they do not support exclusively homosexual spaces?

@Ereshkigalangcleg

What does "transitioning to be a woman" involve? How is someone not born female a woman or do you genuinely feel it's up to the individual to decide their sex?

" I think therefore I am"

@BilindaB

''Hello, could you please explain to me how transwomen are women? Ta ever so.''

I will, I've thought a lot about it, but I will want to phrase it well, so at some point you'll get my answer. This is not a dodge.

So, to be clear.... there will be no forthcoming explanation of how transwomen are women then?

It will be just like the lack of the answer to why you believe you have the authority to speak for transwomen. Because, you keep giving us the 'opinion' of the majority and of the minority. Where are you getting this information, and if there is no evidence to support it, why have you felt you have any authority to make such claims.

And just to short circuit the 'where have I said that' as suggestions did, I will add them here.

Who expects this? Not the vast majority of trans people. It's a bullshit myth put around by transphobes.

I said 'most' I know there are small minority of trans women who say stuff like this and I disagree with them totally, as do most other trans women. Twitters a big place, you can find that small minority there. Got any evidence that it's more than a handful?

Again, the initial statement made it sound as this was official trans policy, It's not, which is why I feel obliged to post, and I ask you for any evidence that it's more than a very small minority of trans women with penises saying 'you must find my penis attractive, lesbians.'

Again, any evidence it's more than a tiny minority. Without misrepresenting what people like Riley Dennis has said.

My first post said the vast majority of trans women don't think this. Which means there is a tiny minority that do. There is no inconsistency. Are you just wasting my time, or can't you read?

Where are you getting this information from that you feel that you can confidently speak on behalf of the 'majority' of trans people?

I see Marion Millar has weeesht. These new suffragettes are rubbish.

You what now?

An adult human male, of or denoting the sex who produces sperm, cannot become an adult human female, of or denoting the sex who produces eggs.

Your definition is relying on something that's impossible.

Yes, the logic is...

You know, thinking about it, I think I prefer a shifting constellation. At least it's something to look at.

I see Marion Millar has weeesht. These new suffragettes are rubbish.

Marion Millar is obeying the law, and her case has opened a lot of eyes to this nonsense.

@BilindaB

Definition of a woman.

1.Adult human female.

1. Someone born male who has transitioned to being a woman.

Well, at least you've provided a definition, which is more than many do. Thanks.

Answer 1 is correct.

Answer 2 is a logical fallacy. A male cannot be a female, by definition.

For anyone unsure of one of the very basic truths of the world - humans are sexually dimorphic. Male or female. And it is not possible to change one's sex.

It really shouldn't be even slightly controversial to say this.

@BilindaB

She' been charged with a homophobic hate crime. Do you usually want to let people who commit crimes like that off?

Ah, you see see this is the problem with you and your signal failure to understand the definition of words again.

Being 'charged' doesn't mean 'committing'.

@BilindaB

She' been charged with a homophobic hate crime. Do you usually want to let people who commit crimes like that off?

You're still posting here and saying that lesbians are like racists if they refuse males who feel like women. Pot, fucking kettle, dear.

Which was the racist preference anyway? 'I only date asians'?

@BilindaB

She' been charged with a homophobic hate crime. Do you usually want to let people who commit crimes like that off?

Is the concept Innocent until Proven Guilty difficult for you to understand?

Charging is not the same as convicting.

Further you might like to note the comments of her Counsel:

The second is that the communication charges are not compatible with guidelines, so it’s not appropriate to plead with.

Maybe you'd like to have a think about what not compatible with guidelines might mean. This is not the slam dunk you are so desperate for it to be.

I'm not desperate for anything. I've always said I'll wait to see the evidence before making my opinion.

1. it’s recursive. ❌

2. please try to define “man” now.

@BilindaB

Definition of a woman.

1.Adult human female.

1. Someone born male who has transitioned to being a woman.

is a circular definition. You have used the word being defined in the definition itself.

What does 'woman' mean in the definition "A woman is someone born male who has transitioned to being a woman"?

@allmywhat

1. it’s recursive. ❌

2. please try to define “man” now.

Oh I was talking about that brilliant two-part definition, please expand on it Blinda!

@BilindaB

She' been charged with a homophobic hate crime. Do you usually want to let people who commit crimes like that off?

You were defending the perpetrator of what I see as a "homophobic hate crime" the other day, based on what the victim was wearing.

1. is a circular definition. You have used the word being defined in the definition itself.

That's how dictionaries do it, I showed that last time. Go look for yourself.

2. is a circular definition. You have used the word being defined in the definition itself.

deja vu

I'm not desperate for anything. I've always said I'll wait to see the evidence before making my opinion.

She' been charged with a homophobic hate crime. Do you usually want to let people who commit crimes like that off?*

Slight inconsistency here, no?

'You were defending the perpetrator of what I see as a "homophobic hate crime" the other day, based on what the victim was wearing.'

Your shit analogy is shit.

@BilindaB

I'm not desperate for anything. I've always said I'll wait to see the evidence before making my opinion.

And what is this evidence you are privy to that has not been tested in open court to so confidently declare this:

Do you usually want to let people who commit crimes like that off?

You have already decided pre trial that Marion is guilty.

@BilindaB

'You were defending the perpetrator of what I see as a "homophobic hate crime" the other day, based on what the victim was wearing.'

Your shit analogy is shit.

Hardly, you agreed with a poster that the gay man got what he deserved because of the clothes he was wearing.

You were defending the perpetrator of what I see as a "homophobic hate crime" the other day, based on what the victim was wearing.

Yes. Rather shameful victim blaming there. Also completely ignored the fact that it was ONE gay man that the crowd could have chosen to ignore completely but instead abused, harassed and crowed about doing so. One person.