Afghan women forced to wear burqa

[GoodieMoomin]

As the taliban continues to gain ground, the forward looking young women of Afghanistan are having to prepare for some major changes.

I cannot imagine how these women are feeling right now, watching their freedoms slip through their fingers. Honestly, I could cry.

^"My mother says we should buy a burqa. My parents are afraid of the Taliban. My mother thinks that one of the ways she can protect her daughters is to make them wear the burqa,” she says.

“But we have no burqa in our home, and I have no intention of getting one. I don’t want to hide behind a curtain-like cloth. If I wear the burqa, it means that I have accepted the Taliban’s government. I have given them the right to control me. Wearing a chador is the beginning of my sentence as a prisoner in my house. I’m afraid of losing the accomplishments I fought for so hard.”^

www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/aug/15/afghan-womens-defiance-and-despair-i-never-thought-id-have-to-wear-a-burqa-my-identity-will-be-lost

@LastSummerHere

I hate men tonight. My stomach has been churning all day for my sisters in Afghanistan and I feel sick with fear for them so can't imagine ho they must be feeling...the fear that must be paralysing them. Yet every comment under every article has stupids useless men laughing bait the MeToo movement being silent. These are MEN'S fucking crimes. It is MEN doing this yet they laugh at women's lack of power to stop it. Fuck them.

I'm very angry too. Another victory for men in the war against women. We are to be pornified or rendered invisible.

I'm so sad and afraid for the innocents in Afghanistan.

Orchestra it just brings home to me how weak men are...they expect women to do more to stop the brothers of men, their own kind, from killing and abusing us. They never ask the same of each other.

When do you ever see a man stand against his own? Fucking never.

@Jaysmith71

Last time they were in charge, the Taliban came up with two prinicples:

1. Male doctors cannot examine women.
2. Women can't be doctors.

The Taliban leadership are hypocrites though because they let some women doctors continue to work because they realised that their own wives and daughters needed them. I don't think these women were allowed to see other patients, although some probably did.

I am no fan of the burqa, but you can hide yourself and other things under one if things get bad. Last time the Taliban were in power, women could hide books when they were studying or cameras to report on what was happening.

Chaotica...that's not a plus! Having to hide books wtf? Women are like cats (or actually, cats are like women which I guess is why they're called feline)...we need to be free to truly live.

@GoodieMoomin

Thanks *@Jackgrealishscurtains* that's exactly what I was getting at. I thought people here would get what I was saying

I can imagine some people here reading Swift's A Modest Proposal and saying "Is that supposed to be funny? Because it's not."

@GoodieMoomin

Thanks *@Jackgrealishscurtains* that's exactly what I was getting at. I thought people here would get what I was saying

imho your remark trivialises an extremely serious situation for the peoples of Afghanistan, stoning's, beatings & child rape await the females of this country now, anyone who stands in their way will be killed, a group of narcotics commandos surrendered to the Taliban and they were all executed.

The UK and the US has caused this.

Years ago I read a book called "My Forbidden Face", a young lady named Latifa was documenting how her life and the lives of other women were uprooted by the taliban. It was a chilling read and my heart breaks knowing that Afghani women will once again go through this.

@LastSummerHere

Orchestra it just brings home to me how weak men are...they expect women to do more to stop the brothers of men, their own kind, from killing and abusing us. They never ask the same of each other.

When do you ever see a man stand against his own? Fucking never.

The President of Afghanistan has fled. Left the women to their fate. The men (most of them) will quickly aquiesce to the taliban's demands.

Being a woman in Afghanistan right now must be like standing on a beach watching a tsunami roll in and having no way to stop it. I can't imagine the horror.

If anyone is curious as to the 'red pill' term used by @BlueberryCheezecake is about, it's a term commonly used by incels - www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/apr/14/the-red-pill-reddit-modern-misogyny-manosphere-men

Unsurprisingly.

Well said @blueberrycheezecake, completely agree.
How the ever loving fuck has this had trans people brought into it, it's a tragedy what's happening to these poor women and girls, and still, STILL it's somehow got people trying to make some sodding point about people being trans, and well now they know what a woman is!

You're the one using this diabolical crisis affecting WOMEN AND GIRLS and making it about 'trans people'.
How on earth do you figure that one out?! Surely the person who made the inane remark in the first place is the one making it about trans people, not people saying hang on a minute!
I could cry for these women and girls, I really could, it's awful what's happening,

What's happening in Afghanistan is truly appalling. The fear these women and girls must be feeling is indescribable.

It's interesting that biology is culturally relative. In the West, biology doesn't exist but it does in places like Afghanistan.

@BlueberryCheezecake

Firstly, of course the Taliban don't recognise the gender of trans people, that's because they're the bad guys.

Secondly, how much of an obsessive, hate-addled, red pilled bigot do you have to be to take what's happening in Afghanistan and use it to make some smug nonsensical non-point about the transes. Do you people literally think about nothing else? Here we have an actual crisis for women, which has nothing to do with trans people at all, and yet that's still all you can talk about about. It's actually shameful.

The point is that "gender-identity" is a luxury western belief system. What is happening in Afghanistan is a stark illustration of what really matters and that is sex. When men want to oppress they know which sex to oppress.

What is happening in Afghanistan is horrific, and women and girls can do nothing to escape it. We all knew it was going to happen and what was going to happen and could and can do nothing about it.

This is like handmaid's tale. I can't even find the words to say how scary it is that people's freedoms can be swiped away, just like that.

To the pp who said males won’t be taken as sex slaves, dancing tea boys in Afghanistan are exactly that. So while girls and women are treated appalllinglu, it’s not exclusive. Women are views as “for children” and boys are viewed as “for pleasure”. War lords collect male sex slaves as a token of power.

As you were.

@BlueberryCheezecake

Firstly, of course the Taliban don't recognise the gender of trans people, that's because they're the bad guys.

Secondly, how much of an obsessive, hate-addled, red pilled bigot do you have to be to take what's happening in Afghanistan and use it to make some smug nonsensical non-point about the transes. Do you people literally think about nothing else? Here we have an actual crisis for women, which has nothing to do with trans people at all, and yet that's still all you can talk about about. It's actually shameful.

Well said. However much we, as many western women, believe sex is immutable, comparison the situation in Afghanistan is not the way to point score. Women are about to lose the limited rights they had under a totalitarian and brutal male regime. They will be killed, stoned, flogged, raped and subjected to ongoing male tyranny. Not the time to moan about trans versus western woes rights.

The point is that "gender-identity" is a luxury western belief system. What is happening in Afghanistan is a stark illustration of what really matters and that is sex. When men want to oppress they know which sex to oppress.

This, 100%. We all know that every single one of those trans activists - the Jane Faes, the Lily Madigans, the Magdalen Bergdorfs - would, if transported to Afghanistan, suddenly miraculously decide that actually, they're not women after all.

I am so sick of this shit. Sex matters.

Munroe Bergdorf, that should be.