Gay men being subject to abuse for their sexuality

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Or Homophobia as we know it.

The belief that the trans-activists would stop by just attacking lesbians turns out to have been a miscalculation; gay men are a target now, and the community is only just starting to wake-up to the threat it is facing.

Woke Homophobia

Dating and mating in of itself is exclusionary. We choose a partner from a pool of potential mates. Then we exclude those we don’t want.

Why do we need to include anyone we don’t want or attracted to? We are anyway going to exclude most of them for one partner anyway.

Why would a trans person want to date someone who is basically being forced and coerced to date them?

Also trans women and trans men can also date one another.

"It looks like a noose 😲 Call da police."

It seems everyone is saying "the charges are because of a ribbon picture" yet everyone is conveniently ignoring the fact the charges were regarding multiple tweets.

I wonder what those other tweets said.

I wonder what those other tweets said.

Well Twitter didn't delete them, and neither has Marion, so anyone genuinely curious can check out her timeline 🤷

No thanks, she's been very busy on Twitter and I'm not going to scroll through and read everything she's posted this year and last.

'Kay Knight: The Shaming of Homosexuals for Having Sex'

concludes:
"I submit that it’s because shame is alive and kicking in the modern progressive movement, and its target is still lesbians and gay men. As I mentioned, I know how powerful that is, and it’s a big component of how conversion therapy operates.

So we are Gay men and lesbians shamed for our sexuality and what is to be done? Any group speaking up for lesbian and gay men is called transphobic and considered toxic not to be touched by the BBC. Any gay man or lesbian stating that we are same-sex attracted is called transphobic. How do you cut through the lies when faced with these anti-gay and anti-lesbian attacks? Most lesbian spaces have been shut down!!!!! Consider that. Tasmania made it ILLEGAL. Our lesbian magazine Diva turned on us and shames us for standing up for women's and lesbian rights. Our LGB organisations turned on pre-lesbian and pre-gay children to tell them they are born in the wrong bodies. I think.... the answer is all in the 'silencing', the #nodebate, the cancelling and avoidance on MSM. Sure people can hold whatever views they want. but our public bodies, media and institutions have removed the means for good faith open discussion about what is happening here.

@Datun

I have been on threads where infertile women on the actual thread have been compared to men, on the actual thread, who cannot conceive. Obvs.

And now sexual orientation is bigoted, because it means some men frame it as them not being able to have sex. (Obviously completely missing that their personality is very likely equally offputting).

All women suffer, but I'm very sorry for women who are specifically targeted in this woman hating crap, you have my sympathy and never ending support.

Men who want to be women: Sexual orientation is a protected characteristic. And it is never going to change. Please get out of the 1950s, and get over it already.

Sexual orientation is a protected characteristic. And it is never going to change. Please get out of the 1950s, and get over it already.

Sexual orientation being called bigoted is going backwards. In many ways it's worse than it was under section 28

@MargaritaPie

"It looks like a noose 😲 Call da police."

It seems everyone is saying "the charges are because of a ribbon picture" yet everyone is conveniently ignoring the fact the charges were regarding multiple tweets.

I wonder what those other tweets said.

Nothing of great consequence. Certainly doesn't reach the threshold of a crime.

has any else looked at the abuse in the OP's link? what did you make of it?

@BernardBlackMissesLangCleg

why can't transitioning make a trans woman more attractive to lesbians?

like women are a kit or something

if you collect all the pieces then you magically become one

a superficial kit with no lesbian sex. #nothankyou

"Nothing of great consequence. Certainly doesn't reach the threshold of a crime."

IMO I find it difficult to believe the police would press charges and the fiscal sending the case to court (the fiscal often throws out cases if they don't think there's a decent chance of getting a conviction) all over a "photo of a ribbon".

We don't have all the info the police and fiscal have, but IMO I think it's reasonable to speculate there is a little more to this.

I find it difficult to believe the police would press charges and the fiscal sending the case to court (the fiscal often throws out cases if they don't think there's a decent chance of getting a conviction) all over a "photo of a ribbon"

Don't we fucking all.

TWEET
"Dennis Noel Kavanagh @Jebadoo2
Just been called homophobic by a TRA who then had to retract it under threat of defamation proceedings.Calling me, a gay man who writes for a gay newspaper and has been queerbashed,lived through the worst AIDS has to offer and spends his time organising with homosexuals that word"

ARTICLE
"I submit that it’s because shame is alive and kicking in the modern progressive movement, and its target is still lesbians and gay men. As I mentioned, I know how powerful that is, and it’s a big component of how conversion therapy operates. How can this new progressive movement hold that open kink must be seen by all and sundry as a healthy expression of sexuality, but insist that a gay man who wants a penis on his sexual partner, or a lesbian who wants a vulva, are unacceptable? What is this except undiluted homophobia?"
lesbianandgaynews.com/2021/08/kay-knight-the-shaming-of-homosexuals-for-having-sex/

We don't have all the info the police and fiscal have, but IMO I think it's reasonable to speculate there is a little more to this.

Well, the evidence is still there on her page. But considering the path the college of policing have gone down recently I think it's reasonable, after assessing the evidence, to conclude there there is not more to this at all.

I would have accepted your position once. But anyone with their eyes open will see how things have changed.

Anyway, we will see. Won't we.

This gay mans perspective is interesting having experienced anti-gay parents and conversion therapy, identifying as trans then realising he's gay and the anti-gay bullying he and other de-transitioners get
lesbianandgaynews.com/2021/07/us-rapper-kurtis-tripp-talks-to-dennis-kavanagh-about-conversion-therapy-at-13-the-pressure-to-identify-as-trans-and-his-journey-back-as-a-gender-critical-gay-rights-activist/

btw for anyone saying "Marion's tweets are all still on there for everyone to see", she has deleted everything before Jan 1st 2021.

"The bullying intensified still further and two years later I had a nervous breakdown and had to take six months off school. Needless to say I failed all but two of my GCSEs." . . . "When Stonewall was formed the message that we as gay men are not broken, and there was nothing wrong with us, eventually filtered down to me" . . . "Stonewall after all who now seem to look down on homosexuality as something to be ashamed of, something to be belittled, to be redefined, to be brushed under the carpet as an inconvenience to their gender identity homophobic pseudoscience."
lesbianandgaynews.com/2021/07/professional-judy-why-are-you-wearing-a-boys-uniform-that-question-has-stayed-with-me-since-it-was-first-asked-by-my-chemistry-teacher-in-front-of-a-packed-class-when-i-wa/

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It seems to me that a probably homophobic/lesbophobic chunk of the population still can't accept that it exists. Their solution seems to be to make it visually palatable...any gay guy must LOOK like a women, so then no one else is offended by their gayness, any lesbian must LOOK like a man. However, this is also odd to me cuz say every single gay or lesbian person did trans, then you'd be back at square 1! Cuz you'd have, say 2 gay guys looking like women who then look like a woman-same-sex couple.

Also the TRA shouts of bigotry towards gays/lesbians that they are wrong bad and awful cuz they have a genital fetish or preference. Umm wtf? Don't they, too though???!! A TW screaming cuz lesbian won't date her...well that TW has a fetish for the female parts then!! How is it any different. It's not! Some seem to just hurl abuse cuz they can't get what they want!! Even if you are bi, you still have genital preferences. Even if you're straight, you prefer the opposite.

They are just mad that they can't get what they want. Too bad. That's life. And, hell, no matter your orientation, I'm sure most people have been rejected when trying to ask someone for a date etc. And if they so truly believe TWAW then why not date each other?? Or is it cuz they want a "real" woman? Well they just knocked their own arguments over.

If someone tells you NO they do not want sex...that means NO, and it doesn't require an explanation. No means NO. Doesn't matter if you think it's bigoted, racist, classist, whatever. And why would you want someone who doesn't want you anyway. Seems all they want is power and to make others feel bad. The ones that are so hateful. Even many TW and TM don't like this aspect of this. And wouldn't some bi people be open to TW or TM? Why the angry focus on what you can't have? Too many people in life, of any variety, seem hell bent on putting others down to make themselves feel better and powerful. Newsflash: you're even more messed up than the rest of us and everyone knows you're weak af!

They seem to play by Abuser's rules, the derogatory ones. However governments etc propping them up the highest, untouchable pedestal is baffling. However many power systems seem to cater to jerks, in all of history, and don't care about human rights. Jerks on Earth seem to be the ones to always be in power. Still very sad and disturbing.

Seems all they want is power and to make others feel bad. The ones that are so hateful. Even many TW and TM don't like this

Very true. It's not ordinary TW and TM doing this. Unfortunately Stonewall force teamed decent people with abusers under a homophobic umbrella

More voices are speaking up and pushing back, though.

Stonewall and other bully orgs have had it their way unchallenged for long enough.

"Stonewall and other bully orgs have had it their way unchallenged for long enough."

LGB Alliance had one of their tweets recently removed by Twitter for "hateful conduct".

LGB Alliance had one of their tweets recently removed by Twitter for "hateful conduct".

Twitter, the place where pedophiles can openly declare the age of children they are attracted to where the leader of the Taliban has a verified account and where women are banned from calling predatory men, men. It'll be a cold day in hell before I regard that cesspit as the arbiter of what is good.

LGB Alliance had one of their tweets recently removed by Twitter for "hateful conduct".

Gosh. What did they say?

Was this one of the tweets?

I'm going to take a bet that you have no idea about the context of that tweet.