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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

‘I lost my candidacy because I’m trans’: Green Party member Kathryn Bristow -

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ScreamingMeMe · 05/08/2021 20:37

Hoooo boy

‘I lost my candidacy because I’m trans’: English Green Party member Kathryn Bristow

‘I’ve been deemed a risk to the party’s reputation for being transgender,’ Bristow tells openDemocracy in an exclusive interview

www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/trans-uk-green-party-kathryn-bristow/

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candycane222 · 05/08/2021 21:28

Loved this anonymous quote:
"A member of the LGBTIQA+ Greens, who spoke to openDemocracy on condition of anonymity, said the regional council “have huge questions to answer about their decision-making and whether or not they’re unfairly targeting inclusive people”."

Inclusive people????? lol

littlbrowndog · 05/08/2021 21:29

🎻🎻🎻🎻

PronounssheRa · 05/08/2021 21:31

Oh dear, what a shame, never mind

The green party really does attract curious people

FindTheTruth · 05/08/2021 21:31

@ScreamingMeMe ah yes!

that 'green party women coup' thread is the one I was thinking of with Bristow "removing the rights of women to organise and discuss women's matters on the Green Party forum" and banning the women from setting up a new group aka 'women should not have their own space with freedom to talk about their own sex based issues without a male in control'

QueenPeary · 05/08/2021 21:37

Isn’t this just reflective of the whole TRA situation though.

Anyone who doesn’t like having their speech coerced, their sex-based legal rights and safe spaces encroached on, or being threatened with violence for their views is “transphobic” - when in reality they have no issue with people being trans. Just with being bullied, threatened and controlled by an ideology, and with being expected to live by someone else’s beliefs.

Likewise if you behave illegally and boast about it, and get dropped, that’s because of your behaviour, not being trans. Is KB really publicly claiming to be so dim as to not be able to grasp that?

Hope Kathryn keeps on bringing the sunlight though.

FindTheTruth · 05/08/2021 21:40

So the Green Party have had Challoner and Bristow silencing / controlling and banning women. Bristow green party women members have been barred from commenting or posting in their own space. Didn't Bristow report green party to the women too or have I got that wrong? how can you trust the Green party not to repeat this pattern forever?

FindTheTruth · 05/08/2021 21:40

typo - Didn't Challenor report green party women to the police too or have I got that wrong?

TheWeeDonkey · 05/08/2021 21:45

I guess give the current climate its only natural that Bristow thinks that lying, incompetence and burying stories is a part of the job.

FindTheTruth · 05/08/2021 21:46

With the scary Climate news today we need parties focused on it and the Green party needs to get its act together.

PronounssheRa · 05/08/2021 21:50

@FindTheTruth

typo - Didn't Challenor report green party women to the police too or have I got that wrong?
I think it could have been andy Healey who was reported by the challenors
TedImgoingmad · 05/08/2021 21:53

How evil do you need to be to think that your personal gender bobbins is more important than the future of the planet?

SirSamuelVimes · 05/08/2021 21:55

So...

I told everyone I was going to break the law.
I broke the law.
I told everyone I had broken the law.
I got sacked because I broke the law.
....
....
....
.... I got sacked because I'm trans!

O-kaaaaaay.

OhWhyNot · 05/08/2021 21:57

So some trans women are not happy with just claiming they are women because they say they are now they are claiming the word female too

Doubt it will take long for the spineless Green Party to reconsider this decision as they have become a party that allows men to make decisions for women - pity what a waste

Lysianthus · 05/08/2021 21:59

Just saw the pronouns. Fae and faer. Someone please help me with the etymology?

TedImgoingmad · 05/08/2021 22:06

Isn't it something to do with fairy people.

TinselAngel · 05/08/2021 22:10

Oh dear, what a pity, never mind.

TedImgoingmad · 05/08/2021 22:12

Here's some self absorbed bollocks on being "genderfae"

realkaristina.medium.com/what-does-it-mean-to-be-fae-as-a-gender-205e2f4294c6

GCAcademic · 05/08/2021 22:12

There seems to be a belief amongst some particularly vocal trans women that any bullying, narcissistic and even illegal behaviour will be ignored and even indulged because they are trans. Often, of course, they are right. But not always.

TalkingOutYerArse · 05/08/2021 22:12

"Kathryn is an immediate and ongoing danger to the reputation of the Green Party,” wrote Hazel Pegg in the 13 March complaint.

Grin
TalkingOutYerArse · 05/08/2021 22:12

Tragic day ladies. Tragic I tell you!

reallyisthisallthereis · 05/08/2021 22:18

@Wrongsideofhistorymyarse

Chinny reckon
Love this. Haven't heard that phrase in years
NiceGerbil · 05/08/2021 22:21

That fae thing and the 'gender euphoria' seems to be about fitting in/ finding a thing that resonates with you and others are like you.

I remember the first time I heard a pixies song I felt euphoric, I suppose. A feeling of omg yes this is it. This is just incredible. And there's a whole group of people who like this sort of music. I've found my people!

S lot of this is about tribes isn't it. We had our own dress style, group name/s, clubs, pubs etc. For many young people I think that's all it is.

The kids who have various gender IDs are often the same sort who were into alternative music scenes.

mollythemeerkat · 05/08/2021 22:22

Lets hope this doesnt tie the Green Party up in knots for the foreseeable. The whole trans thing has been a complete sink for them for some time now, and it isnt as if the climate emergency didnt need some of their attention. They will be twitchy after Challenor, so this may mean they dont walk straight back into a burning building this time but who knows.

54321nought · 05/08/2021 22:26

“It’s because I’m trans,” she says, about why she lost her nomination. “It’s clear that I’ve been deemed a risk to the party’s reputation for being transgender.”

No sweetheart, its because you are a misogynistic, power hungry, narcissistic bully who puts your personal anti-woman vendetta over and above democracy, free speech, the Green Party and the planet.

How many people have left the Green Party because of your behaviour? If you cared anything AT ALL about the planet you would resign.

QueenPeary · 05/08/2021 22:27

I agree about tribes, but with trans ideology it's gone further in that it's been successfully pushed as a wonderful positive thing that must be approved and adopted by institutions and the public. Trans people must be praised and admired and are terribly brave because of the terrible persecution they endure. No nastiness by them counts, they can issue death and rape threats and everyone pretends not to notice, you just have to say you're trans and you're automatically in the right and must be tiptoed around.

Of course there's pushback but I think this weird culture of unassailability and being the ultimate in cool and "in" is what makes it appeal to so many people including of course so many young and insecure or unhappy people.

Whereas your old-fashioned "tribe" was usually inherently a counter-culture or niche thing.