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‘I lost my candidacy because I’m trans’: Green Party member Kathryn Bristow -

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ScreamingMeMe · 05/08/2021 20:37

Hoooo boy

‘I lost my candidacy because I’m trans’: English Green Party member Kathryn Bristow

‘I’ve been deemed a risk to the party’s reputation for being transgender,’ Bristow tells openDemocracy in an exclusive interview

www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/trans-uk-green-party-kathryn-bristow/

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ALittleBitofVitriol · 06/08/2021 03:59

Re that painful medium fae article...

Twitter 👏 Is 👏 Not 👏 Real 👏 Life

Clymene · 06/08/2021 05:28

@FloralBunting

"You will address me as faeled/politician."
GrinGrinGrin
Datun · 06/08/2021 06:22

Bristow is suing them for 'gender based discrimination'.

Should be interesting. I wonder what the definition of that is.

TheWeeDonkey · 06/08/2021 06:31

@littlbrowndog

What’s wrong with Green Party. I would off voted for them if they just concentrate Ed on green stuff

But they just seem to, be gender politics.

What’s the point of Green Party ?

You'd think they would have learned after the Challenor mess. I couldn't trust a political party with such poor judgement. (And thats with the mess all the other parties are in which is saying something)
JustcameoutGC · 06/08/2021 06:37

Have we lost the option of just openly saying, but it's all just a pile of wank. I can't imagine trying to pull that shit with my mates when I was in my 20s, I would have rightfully laughed out of the student union.

When people are talking utter shite, they need to be told they are not have the whole world validate them. Please tell me there are some kids calling bullshit (I don't do twitter)

VetInAVat · 06/08/2021 06:37

He can't sue them under thé equality act if he doesn't have a grc, can he?

MarciaDidia · 06/08/2021 06:41

You don't need a GRC to have the protected characteristic of gender reassignment as therefore be potentially under the protection of the Equality Act 2010. I have no idea about the merits of any case but I don't think you could successfully argue that KB doesn't have that protected characteristic.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 06/08/2021 06:42

Jane Fae's name appears in lower case on Twitter but not elsewhere, as far as I know. It's not Fae's natal surname, so we can assume was chosen for similar reasons to the fae pronoun users'. Fae is of course the self absorbed narcissist who chose the night before daughter's AS levels to announce 'I'm transitioning'. Previously a campaigner for the right to download and view extreme pornography.

‘I lost my candidacy because I’m trans’: Green Party member Kathryn Bristow -
Datun · 06/08/2021 06:43

Since they bend over backwards to accommodate transgenderism, I'd love to see what Bristow perceives as discrimination. As opposed to breaking the law on the census, and publicly boasting about it.

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 06/08/2021 06:47

Oh yes, the same Jane Fae who blamed women’s ‘eggshell skulls’ for them getting murdered by their partners, because it was all just boring examples of domestic violence gone wrong.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 06/08/2021 06:48

Extraordinarily stupid for transgender people not to fill in census correctly, as pointed out here at the time. Sex: female. Gender: female. If ONS deduces anything from this it will be that KB and others who did similar are biologically female, so numbers of trans people will be underrecorded.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 06/08/2021 07:00

Yes, that's the one. Takes knitting to interviews, I think, presumably to emphasise fae's dainty femininity. Cracking response to that here suggesting that feminist interviewees could do a bit of spot welding during interviews.www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3374614-John-Ozimek-now-Jane-Fae-on-women-feminists-and-victims-of-pornographers

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NancyDrawed · 06/08/2021 07:09

@MarciaDidia

You don't need a GRC to have the protected characteristic of gender reassignment as therefore be potentially under the protection of the Equality Act 2010. I have no idea about the merits of any case but I don't think you could successfully argue that KB doesn't have that protected characteristic.
But the PC of Gender reassignment means KB cannot be treated any less favourably than a man or woman in the same circumstance. So if the Green Party would have treated any man or woman the same way for publicising lying on the census, KB can't use the protected characteristic of gender reassignment as the basis for discrimination.
ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 06/08/2021 07:11

Their crowdfunder is doing well. There is some more detail in that as well (excerpts):

I was so excited to be a I was so excited to be a Green Party candidate, especially as a trans woman of colour, I was selected on International Women’s Day to stand. Party candidate, especially as a trans woman of colour, I was selected on International Women’s Day to stand.

The complaint submitted against me, which forms the basis of my suspension, is horrible to even read by itself; it states articles that mention me by the Daily Mail, The Spectator and even Graham Linehan’s transphobic blog are evidence of me bringing the party into disrepute.

Sadly it is true that trans members of the Green Party of England and Wales face abuse and cruelty from transphobes on a daily basis. There are Facebook groups and social media channels whose sole aim is to trash and harass Green trans members. Through these, members coordinate to submit complaints like the one against me. They aim to rid the party of all trans and non-binary people and remove our policies on trans rights.

Even those who aren't openly transphobic in the party's ruling bodies, have enabled these members by not taking a firm stance against bigotry. Their view is that abuse behind closed doors is none of their business, as we are told they have to consider “both sides”.

A solid legal challenge means there will be a case from the top to tackle this head-on. It will hasten the day when the party has to finally put a stop to discrimination that has plagued the party. To help me and my trans siblings breathe easier again.

AnyFucker · 06/08/2021 07:24

“You will address me as faeled/politician."

Arf

Triphazards · 06/08/2021 08:24

The declension is fae, fie, fo, fum.

Sophoclesthefox · 06/08/2021 08:49

The statement on the crowdfunder um, glosses over a fair bit of Bristows activity in the lead up to being dropped, doesn’t it?

A good legal crowdfunder would lay out: what happened? What should have happened? How was it detrimental to the claimant? What remedy are they seeking?

I don’t see any of that there. It’s very waffly.

TedImgoingmad · 06/08/2021 08:50

Bristow's lawyers have taken the case on a no win, no fea basis.

TedImgoingmad · 06/08/2021 08:51

*fae

Jaysmith71 · 06/08/2021 09:02

@NancyDrawed

...or perhaps because you made a point of publicly stating that you were breaking the law by knowingly giving false info in the census and the Green Party didn't want to endorse that?
Because this:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-57075596

FloralBunting · 06/08/2021 09:02

I've just read the medium article. Well worth reading the comments, where they all end up having an argument about whether faeries are good or not, and whether the author of the article, by identifying as Fae should in fact answer for the terrible violence inflicted on the Celtic humans by the Fae in the ancient Celtic myths and legends.

Be careful what you wish for, Tumblrkind... you might be expected to pay reparations for the fictional behaviour of your fantasy gender.

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 06/08/2021 09:40

Other blog posts reveal that that some people are using "vi", "vin", "vis" as their pronouns or "ni"*

The knights who say 'ni' were ahead of the curve by decades.

BreatheAndFocus · 06/08/2021 09:41

Slightly off-topic but from that ‘fake article’:

My bio at the time read, in part, that I was a cis woman who used she/her. I replied to the tweet to clarify that I’d added cis to my bio because my somewhat androgynous appearance had led people to assume I was non-binary, and I didn’t want the appearance of appropriating a non-binary identity

That’s the crux, isn’t it? Everyone has to conform to silly regressive stereotypes. A woman with short hair? Stop! Someone might think you’re claiming the NB identity! (But it’s not about how you look, right) In fact, dear friend, you’ve got short hair…perhaps you are NB! What’s even sillier is that it then contradicts itself by her saying that ‘fake’ means she feels sometimes feminine but never masculine. Yet a few sentences before she was rambling on about how her looking a bit masculine might mean people thought she was NB! 🙄

As for KB, their special ‘trans shield’ has failed and they’re being held accountable for their actions. Tragic. KB was the final straw that made me leave the Greens. It was because K is trans but because of their actions - much like the census lie accusations here.

BreatheAndFocus · 06/08/2021 09:42

FAE not fake 😂 Transphobic auto-correct alert 😆

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