Woman arrested "had intially been mistaken for a man"

[User27aw]

www.southwarknews.co.uk/news/exclusive-three-more-women-attacked-by-knife-wielding-suspect-in-east-dulwich/

From the article:

"Today (June 15) a 53-year-old woman was arrested on suspicion of grievous bodily harm with intent and remains in custody while enquiries continue.

Police say they believe she is the only suspect, and had initially been mistaken for a man. "

Who had mistaken her for a man. The police? The victims?

I've been completely baffled by this (I'm a local resident), but actually if you do a quick Facebook search on the arrested person's name, a profile comes up that I can see could be someone who could pass as either a 20-something male or a 50-something female (if you do the search, you'll see what I mean). Obviously no idea if it's the same person, but if it is then I can now see how the confusion has come about (and, whilst I was convinced until that point it was a TIM based on all that's been said, I now don't think it is).

It's very confusing

Apparently the victims described s young man. I don't know if that's true, what I read did say a man but not young.

They've arrested a 53 year old woman. Is it for the same crimes? Because that's clearly the wrong person. If so then the public needs to be warned surely?

If the things saying the victims reported young is not true. Then they've either got the wrong person (not a man) or they have the right person but are respecting their pronouns. The latter means massive confusion and the public not knowing whether the man is still at large.

It's a mess.

@EyesOpening

"I think it would be possible for one person to make this mistake but it sounds like all four victims and eyewitnesses gave similar descriptions so I think it's less likely they are all mistaken."

I have only seen it reported that the first victim (or possibly her child) said it was a man, it feels like someone said that on this thread and now people are taking that as fact

The police have linked the attacks though?

If they've got the woman then there may be another attacker out there?

Or do you mean the first victim got the sex wrong?

Or the first victim and the son were both mistaken?

@GreenTease

I've been completely baffled by this (I'm a local resident), but actually if you do a quick Facebook search on the arrested person's name, a profile comes up that I can see could be someone who could pass as either a 20-something male or a 50-something female (if you do the search, you'll see what I mean). Obviously no idea if it's the same person, but if it is then I can now see how the confusion has come about (and, whilst I was convinced until that point it was a TIM based on all that's been said, I now don't think it is).

I’m struggling to picture that. Not sure I want to go and look.

I've read the comments by the first victim on the East Dulwich forum and it is all v curious. She doesn't outright say that she was obviously mistaken in thinking it was a man. But she does say she can't say more about it because of ongoing judicial proceedings.

@NiceGerbil

It's very confusing

Apparently the victims described s young man. I don't know if that's true, what I read did say a man but not young.

They've arrested a 53 year old woman. Is it for the same crimes? Because that's clearly the wrong person. If so then the public needs to be warned surely?

If the things saying the victims reported young is not true. Then they've either got the wrong person (not a man) or they have the right person but are respecting their pronouns. The latter means massive confusion and the public not knowing whether the man is still at large.

It's a mess.

Who was it? Jeanette Krankie?

???

My point is the police are causing a lot of confusion. About a series of serious crimes against women.

And not responding to any questions asking for more info/ is it the right person etc.

They have given the persons name now…

mobile.twitter.com/MPSDulwichHill/status/1405478009734418432

It appears the same person has been “ejecting bodily fluids after being arrested previously” 🤮

www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/17853619.st-johns-road-penge-woman-arrested-allegedly-attacking-van/

They seem to be very coy about the bodily fluids.

Piss?
Shit?
Snot?
Something else?!

I’m struggling to picture that. Not sure I want to go and look.
I did earlier. Its nothing weird, just exactly as OP said, a picture of someone androgynous and kinda ageless.
But who knows?

Do women eject bodily fluids?

When they sneeze!

Maybe if you pee as hard as you can?

The coyness and the word eject certainly seems to be hinting at something...

The Dulwich police twitter link isn't loading. Have they taken it down?

@Clymene I mean. I can get a good amount of pressure up if my bladder is super full. Does that count? Cuz otherwise I’m thinking not.

No it’s still up! Person named by the police as Marie Archer aged 53

I can see their Twitter

@Clymene

Do women eject bodily fluids?

metro.co.uk/2010/03/08/woman-assaults-jailer-with-breast-milk-151658/

'As I work on the social media team and I need to speak to with the officer in the case to get all the correct information. The person charged was a female"

twitter.com/MPSLewisham/status/1405605116435210243?s=19

@NiceGerbil in the link to the Southwark News, it is reported about the first victim "the unknown man had attacked her out of the blue on Wood Vale and tried to..." and that the first victim refers to her attacker as "him" (it could be that it was her child who referred to the attacker as "he" to her first though). Also on the local forum, the first victim (I'm presuming it is actually her as I have no reason to believe it isn't) is posting about the first attack and saying it was a young man, around 20 - 30, it all marries up with the newspaper article.
It's also reported that "Three more women were violently attacked" but nowhere in that article does it report those three women describing their attacker, and I can't see any other links to reports about these incidents.
Then it says the attacker was originally mistaken for a man.
I think people/someone have/has speculated that the other three victims have described the attacker as a man and it's snowballed and become "fact"

I thought breast milk was sterile?

I think that when

A victim has said man
The crime is the sort that women very rarely commit

That people think. Hmm. Really?

Yes women commit violent crime. To randomly attack multiple women so severely would be incredibly unusual.

The reason people wonder is because it's established that police forces use self id and have done for years.

People have lost trust that they are getting the whole truth. Especially when it's a series of crimes with bloke stamped all over it.

This doubt is detrimental to both men and women, and reduces confidence in the police.