Victory for Maya!

[DancesWithTortoises]

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Hurrah!

what a happy day

Maya

Not sure this been shared, JKR backs Maya:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/420d470e-c9d6-11eb-b255-82dcc5007185?shareToken=b68a9c9c39c9f378f729cbc034f932f7

Bloody hell Johnathon Ross stuck his head above the parapet again did he? I bet his daughter is furious.

I heard about ten mins on LBC after 2am. The presenter seemed to be laying into/scoffing as Maya and kept saying ‘you can change sex - it’s been done many times, YOU CAN CHANGE SEX!’ Then scoffed at a listener who asked if he (Asian) could change his race by lightening his skin (that would be ridiculous of course because race isn’t just physical ).

I got up to make a cup of tea when a caller got on, again was dismissive about Maya (‘or whatever her name is’ - type comment) and said that they had felt like a female since childhood (my question would of course been ‘how did you know!) but I was anticipating a love fest so decided that some caffeine would be more restful than listening to this one sided ‘discussion’.

Don’t know who the presenter was but he was one... man.

JKR gives no shits about thr pitchfork mob and it's glorious to see.

Times leader column today also in support of Maya

Just heard radio sum up the Times views.

Good to hear it plainly said

I've listened to Mayas statement and one glaring error I noticed.

She refers to the protected characteristic of Gender Identity,

Gender identity is not and never has been a protected characteristic. This was a lie from Stonewall. The protected characteristic is Gender Reassignment and the spirit of the law was always transsexuals- 5000 or so people and not the 600k to 1mil that are claiming protection.

She believes trans women holding certificates that recognise their transgender identity cannot describe themselves as women.?

This is entirely incorrect.

Maya has never been opposed to transsexuals and has been supported by many TS people. Back at the start of this situation I was in contact with Maya discussing this.

There is no such thing as a certificate recognising a transgender identity. There is a certifucate recognising TRANSSEXUAL identity (a GRC)....

@justanotherneighinparadise

Bloody hell Johnathon Ross stuck his head above the parapet again did he? I bet his daughter is furious.

I had the same thought!

@Pan2

JK Rowling Not sure if this is a big thing, but JK Rowling 'liked' a tweet of mine, just now, about Maya. Do I save this for ever? Feeling a bit dizzy.

I would definitely count that as a big thing!

Mostly supportive comments in the Times that I've read so far.
One or two somewhat daft
Meanwhile, BBC bitesize GCSE revision goes on explaining biological sex. Is this taught as a belief or fact?

Standard accepted facts can also be 'beliefs' - the shape of the earth, evolution etc. What's their point?

I presume the point is that if kids are taught at school that chromosomes determine biological sex then biological sex must be fixed and unchangeable? And that kids are taught this as fact. I presume it doesn't say "some people believe that male chromosomes are XY"?

@PCRandcrochet

Nice to see those remarks essentially scrubbed from the record

Not just scrubbed, discredited @Freespeecher

YIS!!!

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Winsome little minx, isn't they?

Maya, you beauty! I watched the mess we’re in celebration live. It was a glorious time!

It's incredibly depressing to see the list of appointments Gregor Murray achieved. Gregor would seem to be singularly unsuited for any of those positions.

•	Convener of the Children and Families Service Committee
•	Council’s Spokesperson on Equal Opportunities.Member of
•	The Council’s service Committees (City Development, Children and Families, Development Management, Neighbourhood Services and Community Safety and Public Protection)
•	Representative, COSLA Board (Children and Young People)
•	Representative, Dundee Partnership (Children and Families Executive Board)

Wasn’t they also a Scot leader?

I'm sure that's not the definitive list, I just copied the top few as they related to children and families. Also unsuited to being a scout leader.

What did Jonathon Ross say?

@notthenever

What did Jonathon Ross say?

It went something like (paraphrasing, obviously)

Wanker: As a follower of yours I am disappointed etc

JR: As a non-follower of you, your disappointment means nothing to me

W: I believe that TWs are W, blah, blah, blah blah blah blah

JR: Fair enough - you are entitled to believe that

W: BUT BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH

JR: I don't really care about your opinion.

I found it mildly satisfying, but am not too impressed with Ross either, as he kept his head well below the parapet prior to Maya's judgement

Baby steps. I'll take it for now.

Thanks @SchadenfreudePersonified