Starmer and the Labour Party Really Cannot Read the Room

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Labour and Self-id

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Rosie Duffield gets the predictable kicking in the comments. Still no public support for her. That's what the Labour leadership think about women's rights and women who have an opinion.

Why any women would vote Labour I really do not know.

@PurpleHoodie

The Lib Dems are dangerous and slimy.

The bye-election vote was highly influenced by the HS2 issue. Lib-Dems are FOR HS2. She won her seat based on 1. HS2 Nimbyism 2. Protest votes on other issues.

As well as the unwillingness of people to give their protest vote to Labour.

Yes.

@PurpleHoodie

The Lib Dems are dangerous and slimy.

The bye-election vote was highly influenced by the HS2 issue. Lib-Dems are FOR HS2. She won her seat based on 1. HS2 Nimbyism 2. Protest votes on other issues.

Doubt anyone who opposes HS2 would vote for a party that supports it and has zero influence in Parliament.

I think the issues that caused a low turnout and anti tory sentiment run far deeper than the concerns you raised

The shine has come of Boris.

@DdraigGoch

HS2 is a fair accompli. The government wants to build more houses (no one can deny that the Home Counties need them) and there are plenty of rich NIMBYs there who don't want it.

There ARE lots of people needing housing in the south east but the kind of housing the government and their friends the land developers want, will not be that kind of housing. I am not familiar with rich Nimbeys as you call them, but bunging huge estates of expensive housing in the middle of the countryside is not popular and we are losing land for food production at an alarming rate.

I cancelled my Labour Party membership a couple of years ago, and told them why - even though we had a good female MP in my ward, I won't vote for her as she is being cowardly about standing up for women - I won't vote Labour again until they stand up for women's rights to single sex facilities

Doubt anyone who opposes HS2 would vote for a party that supports it and has zero influence in Parliament.

I think they would as a protest vote in a by-election.

George Galloway hitting the nail on the head here with his views on Labour and its obsession with trans & identity politics

www.spiked-online.com/2021/06/24/labour-has-ignored-its-voters-it-is-now-paying-the-price/

[quote Tesla73]George Galloway hitting the nail on the head here with his views on Labour and its obsession with trans & identity politics

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And Labour continue to act like the stasi when it comes to free speech and wrong think

www.spiked-online.com/2021/06/24/why-is-labour-suppressing-debate-about-batley-grammar/

I think that there is a difference between labour ignoring women and labour seeking to silence a moronic, deliberately devisive, racist, misogynist bigot billionaire puppet cock-womble like Laurence Fox.

George Galloway is without principle or honour. If your find yourself thinking George Galloway 'has a point' or is the answer to anything, then the question needs re-framing.

If you don't believe me, just look at what Kate Leadbetter is being subjected to.

And then remember that Jo Cox was murdered by a far-right fanatic and a teacher has received death threats.

And George Galloway has parachuted into Batley and Spen to try and provoke volatility. A volatility he will walk away from, secure in the knowledge he need take no responsibility for the after-effects (that others will have to live with and deal with), it all just serves to raise his profile.

It is truly unprincipled behaviour.

Really, George Galloway is never the answer.

George Galloway is repulsive but if he said the sky was blue would you declare him to be wrong?

@Tibtom

George Galloway is repulsive but if he said the sky was blue would you declare him to be wrong?

No, but his opinion wouldn't have any bearing on my belief that the sky is blue.

Imho society is going through change. New divisions are being formed and we seem to be importing, full throttle, ideology from the US that cannot be squeezed into the UK (I don't think it can be squeezed into the US either). In the 60's there was a large change taking place, but that could be argued in terms of demographics - the boomers had grown up. This time there doesn't seem to be that kind of impetus so the only explanation is that our institutions have been dragging us, without knowledge, into areas we haven't yet agreed to. Labour has got on board with the 'no debate' and in a country like the UK this is a big no go area. George Galloway and his ilk are neither here not there in the grand scheme of things. So Labour need to work fast and furious to get their ducks in a row because the electorate do not forgive easily and no amount of debate will prevent the decline in Labours fortunes unless it can take a serious look at itself, in all areas.

@JediGnot

I think that there is a difference between labour ignoring women and labour seeking to silence a moronic, deliberately devisive, racist, misogynist bigot billionaire puppet cock-womble like Laurence Fox.

I don't think Fox is a billionaire by any stretch, but why in the world would you think silencing someone who thinks things you disagree with, even if he is an idiot, is a good idea?