Ofsted have left Stonewall

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Apologies, I don't have a Telegraph subscription so can't read the full article but the bones of it from Twitter are that Ofsted have LEFT Stonewall.

Hopefully this is the beginning on the end of the gender ideology in our schools.

twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1401058196127686658?s=21

@BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted

I suspect Freddie’s baby will be OK, being raised by its grandparents, rather than Freddie them self. I find it very odd indeed why Freddie bothered to have a baby at all. I’m sure Freddie’s parents must be delighted to have another generation to raise

How do you know this?

I've emailed and forwarded the SM letter to:

NHS England
Gav Williamson at dept for ed
Santander
my alma mater
the BBC

Also sent the letter to my kids' school.

@MrsOvertonsWindow

Tanith Do you remember Glencoats Primary School? The school who decided that the drag queen "Flowjob" was just the right person to represent LGBT issues and read to little children: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8038669/Furious-parents-slam-primary-school-drag-queen-Flowjob-read-pupils-young-four.html

They signed up to this LGBT Schools Charter award:

blogs.glowscotland.org.uk/re/public/glencoatsprimary/uploads/sites/2371/2019/10/LGBT-Schools-Charter-Standards-e-use-003.pdf

It's very revealing the level of influence on education policy and practice that the charter demands - including of course the mixed sex changing and toilets and additional resources to train primary teachers in trans issues.

Significant demands of time, £££, pupil and adult time.

And training where they tell teachers to affirm, brushing off the need to discuss it with parents:

forwomen.scot/13/12/2020/george-watsons-college-staff-transgender-training/#more-2931

Their “revised” version of the LGBTYS guidance to schools has been “imminent” since Dev 2019. I have written to ScotGov many times and they refuse to accept any input that would put balance into the guidance - I.e. that watchful waiting is an acceptable path for parents/schools to take.

This is the latest response I’ve had from ScotGov which I suppose is a slight improvement as it doesn’t mention the existing guidance (previous correspondence sang its praises)

Finding some of these replies alarming. There is nothing wrong with supporting Pride month by showing solidarity with minority groups. A lot of the women on the FWR boards are lesbian or bisexual and we still face prejudice and discrimination for that and education and awareness raising in schools is what we all fought for back in the day.

I don't think not wearing a rainbow is sticking it to the man of Stonewall. It's failing to support those kids in schools who are LGB, might grow up to be trans, have LGBT parents or family members. All of this still need to happen. Stonewall rightfully deserve the bad publicity they're getting but don't damage the rest of us in the process of expressing your righteous anger.

It's failing to support those kids in schools who are LGB, might grow up to be trans, have LGBT parents or family members

It's actions that count and make a difference. Not what people wear.

Excellent news.

There is nothing wrong with supporting Pride month by showing solidarity with minority groups.

Indeed. However, there is a difference between an organisation choosing to allow employees to show solidarity and employees feeling forced to display allyship. That's not solidarity. It also defeats the object.

I no longer wear a poppy as I dislike the way it has almost become almost compulsory. I would feel the same about rainbow colours.

@PurpleWh1teGreen

Wow this is becoming an avalanche. At last.

These organisations knew the Emperor was naked all along. What a shame no one wanted to be the first to say out loud. Well now, no one wants to be last.

Exactly!

The whole rotten edifice is wobbling and about to crash.

Brought about by hubris and overreach, like all dictatorial regimes.

We are being issued with rainbow laces to wear on our lanyards but also expected to dress in rainbow colours on one day.

Sorry @PreservativeFree I know the thread has moved on, I've been out. Aside of anything else I think the rainbow dress code could be very problematic for anyone (female or male) whose wardrobe is full of plain clothes, a colour palette of navy blue and black with the odd white shirt for instance. Why should employees be put to trouble and expense in this way?

I don't know what your subject is but perhaps you could undermine the whole thing by working Joseph and his technicolour coat into your teaching that day. Maybe a song from the musical for assembly?

Stonewall rightfully deserve the bad publicity they're getting but don't damage the rest of us in the process of expressing your righteous anger.

I think it's Stonewall who has done the damage. A once great organisation has shit all over its own legacy to keep the gravy training going. I am worried their behaviour will lead to a backlash and the only people who are likely to be unaffected are straight white men, the rest of us will be lumped together as virtue signalling, woke, SJW professional victims who are trying to suppress free speech.

I am worried their behaviour will lead to a backlash and the only people who are likely to be unaffected are straight white men

It's been a danger ever since the prerequisites of Arendt's Origins of Totalitarianism started to be implemented as a playbook rather than a interpreted as a warning. I'm very apprehensive of a neartime Thermidorean reaction where we're in danger of having the protections, civil rights and progress of so many minoritised groups removed.

the phase in some revolutions when power slips from the hands of the original revolutionary leadership and a radical regime is replaced by a more conservative regime, sometimes to the point where the political pendulum may swing back towards something resembling a pre-revolutionary state

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermidorian_Reaction

Stonewall rightfully deserve the bad publicity they're getting but don't damage the rest of us in the process of expressing your righteous anger.

The problem is that it now all leaves a bad taste in the mouth because of Stonewall’s activities. Who am I supporting? People who face real discrimination or people who are ‘Demi romantic’? Men who get a thrill from cross dressing?

I feel similarly about international woman’s day which seems to be about corporations selling ‘girl power’, but atleast that is just 1 day.

I no longer wear a poppy as I dislike the way it has almost become almost compulsory. I would feel the same about rainbow colours.

Yes - see also clapping for the NHS.

That sounds a bit hysterical to be honest, a bit like people who say failure to do everything they want is "literal violence". It is very narcissistic behaviour.

Yes.

@PreservativeFree for your school/employer - this article explains why rainbow colours are a problem for lesbian, gay, bi, same-sex attracted people - "it became a symbol of a political ideology that many of us recognise as being homophobic and working against our interests"
lesbianandgaynews.com/2021/04/obituary-the-rainbow-flag-previously-a-symbol-of-hope-of-the-lesbian-and-gay-civil-rights-movement-died-in-2020-at-the-age-of-42-writes-professional-judy/

@bitheby

Finding some of these replies alarming. There is nothing wrong with supporting Pride month by showing solidarity with minority groups. A lot of the women on the FWR boards are lesbian or bisexual and we still face prejudice and discrimination for that and education and awareness raising in schools is what we all fought for back in the day.

I don't think not wearing a rainbow is sticking it to the man of Stonewall. It's failing to support those kids in schools who are LGB, might grow up to be trans, have LGBT parents or family members. All of this still need to happen. Stonewall rightfully deserve the bad publicity they're getting but don't damage the rest of us in the process of expressing your righteous anger.

Schools support LGBT pupils by ensuring that they're great centres of learning where they safe, learn effectively and thrive. A place where their views are listened to, respected and where they learn to work and play alongside all their peers. Where they learn to respect and tolerate differences.

Wearing a rainbow ribbon during Pride month is a vacuous and empty gesture. The real work in schools builds effective relationships between all children in a culture of learning and mutual respect that recognises all the challenges that they face - race, sex, disability, learning difficulties and so much more. Pride month is an irrelevance for schools.

“Stonewall rightfully deserve the bad publicity they're getting but don't damage the rest of us in the process of expressing your righteous anger.”

I can understand what you’re saying and I think, for that reason, LGB Alliance set up just in time. I think that wasn’t supposed to happen and it means that Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual people do now have an alternative to being tainted with all this, particularly as Stonewall has made it so clear they have nothing to do with LGB Alliance.

Remember it was Stonewall that abandoned GC lesbians and told them they weren’t welcome.

It doesn’t stop at Stonewall, though. They were infiltrated themselves. How and by whom is a question that ought to be addressed, too.

Schools support LGBT pupils by ensuring that they're great centres of learning where they safe, learn effectively and thrive. A place where their views are listened to, respected and where they learn to work and play alongside all their peers. Where they learn to respect and tolerate differences.

Wearing a rainbow ribbon during Pride month is a vacuous and empty gesture. The real work in schools builds effective relationships between all children in a culture of learning and mutual respect that recognises all the challenges that they face - race, sex, disability, learning difficulties and so much more. Pride month is an irrelevance for schools.

100% and as it currently stands Pride month is an irrelevance for LGB people full stop. Forcing people to participate and demonising them for not doing so are the tactics of a dictatorship.

MoJ reported to have left Stonewall now archive.ph/3dCjg

The conference organizers may need a rethink.

westminsterinsight.com/event/3614/LGBT__at_Work_Digital_Conference

Is this about to become a rout?

As for "pride month", which other group of people want one twelth of the year devoting to them.

Yes, a week tends to be the norm, so recently we have had Dementia Awareness Week, Mental Health Week, Volunteers Week. The charities might do a thing the whole month for members (if associated charitable organisations) but the focus is on a week.

Did Sainsbury's (for example) do anything for Dementia Awareness Week or is it just easier to change their logo to a rainbow colouring for a month?

Today's Times says Channel 4 have quit the Stonewall scheme too.

If the likes of Channel 4 are pulling out then Stonewall really are in trouble.

[quote MaudTheInvincible]MoJ reported to have left Stonewall now archive.ph/3dCjg[/quote]
About time.